Victory in seal case: Judge sends seal rope matter back to Planning Commission
July 16, 2011 – 1:19 pmJuly 15,2011
Good news from the court: Judge sends seal rope matter back to Planning Commission
Please read the Union Tribune article below
and the La Jolla Light article:
Judge Lisa Foster said that the Planning Commission had a “Grand Canyon sized gap” in its analysis when rejecting the City Council’s resolution to keep the rope up year round at the seal beach. The Planning Commission needs to address this gap in their reasoning and comply with the law.
The judge also said there was other procedural confusion that needs to be clarified as to why the Planning Commission’s decision denying the year-round barrier is not appealable to the California Coastal Commission.
The judge’s ruling is very important as it shows that the City administrative bodies cannot simply overrule City’s elected officials’ regulations without proper factual findings as it happened in this case.
Thanks to our attorney, Bryan Pease, who worked very hard (and pro bono) on this litigation, the year round rope guideline can now go up for another review. Our litigation, supported by Congresswoman Susan Davis and four Council members, was successful.
The Planning Commission met last week, but took no action and we are hoping that the matter will be sent directly to the California Coastal Commission:
In the meantime, seals suffer being scared off the beach by the anti-seal activists and unaware crowd. Please see this sequence of photographs taken on July 13 by one of our volunteers, Kim, that shows how easy it is to get rid of the resting animals when rope is not in place:
Small group of seals still on the beach
Unaware crowd getting to close to the animals
Anti-seal activist, David Wayne Pierce arrives
setting up his “Beach open” umbrella
More people are encouraged to go down
This guy verbally harassed our young female volunteer at the top of the stairs, charged at all the seals and ran them off, then climbed the wall to scare the seals on the rocks
He goes into the water and has his family help him so that the seals can’t get back on the beach
No more seals on the beach – they have no chance to come back on the shore with people taking up all space
Pierce happy that the seals are gone - this is “shared use” according to the pro-beach people like him
WE AND THE SEALS NEED YOUR HELP!!
EVERYONE WHO CARES ABOUT THE SEALS, PLEASE COME TO CASA BEACH TO HELP PROTECT THE ANIMALS FROM HARASSMENT FROM THE ANTI-SEAL BULLIES.
Contact Dorota@aprl.org for more info
The following government officials should be asked why the seals in La Jolla aren’t being protected:
San Diego mayor Jerry Sanders
Phone: (619) 236-6330
Fax: (619) 236-7228
JerrySanders@sandiego.gov
City Council member Sherri Lightner (District 1 including La Jolla)
Phone: (619) 236-6611
From North County:
(858) 484-3808
Fax: (619) 236-6999
sherrilightner@sandiego.gov
Please call National Marine Fisheries office and request their enforcement agent to be present at Casa Beach in La Jolla on weekends to issue citations for violations of the Marine Mammal Protection Act since people who disturb the seals on regular basis are present there in full force with an intent to harass the seals.
Local NMFS San Diego office
(619)557-5494
Long Beach office, Headquarters for the National Marine Fisheries Service’s Southwest Region
(562) 980-4000
WE ALSO NEED YOUR FINANCIAL HELP IN ORDER TO CONTINUE! PLEASE DONATE TO OUR PROGRAM BY CLICKING ON THE “DONATE” BUTTON ON OUR WEBSITE
going directly to APRL website (please mention SEAL FUND here)
or by sending a check or money order to:
Animal Protection & Rescue League
Seal Fund
302 Washington St. #404
San Diego, CA 92103
THANK YOU!!!
Dorota
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60 Comments! WOW! Read Below what others are saying.
Verbal harassment of your volunteer? Andrea, do I need to post your video of you losing you mind again to show you what harassment really is? Also, What do you think you guys are doing on the bullhorns? As the crowd gets closer to the seals in the first picture, I am pretty sure there aware that they are there, that is why they went down there in the first place. Nice try on the cropped photo’s just cutting the seals out of the picture. In the third photo in the upper left corner you can see the people standing there taking pictures of the seals on the beach. And if you look in your other photo, you can still see the seals on the rocks which is there preferred haul out spot to begin with as when the sun comes out, it tends to be a little cooler on them.
And before you label me a hater of seals, I love the seals and enjoy swimming with them every chance I get.
Please, please point out one fact to me that the shared use policy does not work. As Sergeant Friday used to say on Dragnet, just the facts please.
By Emmet on Jul 17, 2011
Harrassing the seals is a constant by Emmet and his gang of self-absorbed egotists. You “love” the attention. We are defending a species who have no voice. Go away and fight some other cause…like cancer!
By L. Silver on Jul 17, 2011
Still waiting for facts.
Definition: Fact is sometimes used synonymously with truth or reality, as distinguishable from conclusions or opinions. This use is found in such phrases as, It is a fact that the cup is red or Matter of fact,[4] and “… not history, nor fact, but imagination.”
Point out one fact that shared use does not work.
Anyone? anyone at all?
By Emmet on Jul 17, 2011
Who is this “DWP” you say is a “convicted drug dealer”? Is he really a convicted drug dealer?
I want to know so I can keep my children away from him. That type of person is dangerous.
By Jimbo on Jul 17, 2011
Fact: Sunday, July 17, 2011 I sat above Casa Beach and our shared beach was ONLY populated with humans….sat there from 11:30a.m. – 1:15p.m. Seals tried to come on beach only to be scared by the hoards of humans. FACT: NO SHARING!
By L. Silver on Jul 17, 2011
Fact: Sunday, July 17, 2:30am beach covered in seals. Humans during the day and seals at night = shared.
By cyberKICK on Jul 17, 2011
I understand that Cool Ethan has taken quite a beating on behalf of the fallout from this video Emmet. I am sorry that you belong to such a category as not permit you to capitalize from offenses of this kind to your characters, made up or otherwise. Some time ago I wrote a little poem that might help you, but I fear that your new labling as “Twats” will preclude you from gaining any insight into your fallen ethos, as it generally only applies to young women and not Twats.
Once upon a time when I was in my Red Ridinghood period,
A Wolf came out and leered at me.
Being young and not undertanding the formalities,
I simply responded by saying “Fuck You Too”.
The Wolf was taken a back by this,
And wanted me to help him.
So after apologizing for being rude I went on my way,
Because he really wasn’t my type.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 18, 2011
Make that triple post, new computer.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 18, 2011
Emmet and Tim: Since you are obviously at the beach at 2:30 a.m. why not utilize that period for “loving”, diving, swimming and “sharing” with your sweet animal and human pals…shared use you know!
By L. Silver on Jul 18, 2011
Thanks for the new trophy Emmet, but I have to tell you that you really aren’t learning from your mistakes. The trouble seems to stem from your thinking you can be like me.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 19, 2011
Whoa is me Tim and Sealover, your asking for people to care about you everytime you pull something out of your asses. Good luck with the restraining order.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 19, 2011
Emmitt, you might love swimming with the seals, but I doubt they enjoy you. How would you feel if everytime you tried to get some rest or sleep you were interupted? Not only would you be upset, but you would not be able to function at the best of your ability. Take a break from bothering the seals. Get a hobby or go to church…Do something….
By Joe on Jul 20, 2011
My name is Dan Byrnes. I recognize that people from all over the world go to this small beach just to catch a glimpse of seals. But because I’m an asshole with too much time on my hands, I prefer to go to this beach every week just to scare the seals away and piss off all the people hoping to see them.
Do I hate people? Obviously. Do I hate seals? Certainly. Is there a broken-off dick jammed up my ass? Probably.
By Dan the fag Byrnes on Jul 21, 2011
Joe, I have a hobby, its called diving. I do it up and down the coast on a regular basis. I have also been known to spear fish that I eat and share with my friends and do some video work underwater of the seals as well. I have also done baseline research for scientific studies, and underwater salvage work. When I dive the Children’s pool, when I enter the water I take care not to disturb the seals. If they cover the beach, I dive somewhere else as to not bother them. If there on one side of the beach, I enter on the other side. When I make my entry into the water, they rarely even raise there head and look at me. I disturb them about as much as the sea gulls that walk by them or the incoming tide. And a hell of a lot less then the idiots on the bull horn on top of the bluff.
Underwater, they swim up to me, not the other way around because there curious as to what that slow moving big unlikely object underwater is. Micheal Phelps could maybe swim as well as the seals do, but I know I can’t. If you think you can out swim a seal, they will make you look like a fool every time. This is not typical of a distressed animal. Its kind of like comparing disturbing the birds by flying a kite in the park. Yeah, there both in the sky, the bird may come over and look at the kite, but does the kite bother the bird?
As far as church goes, I believe in going to church every Sunday, unless a game is on, or the fish are biting or the diving conditions are good. Note, nothing wrong with attending church either.
By Emmet on Jul 22, 2011
Emmet, I’m still waiting for the criteria that supports your theory that you presence does nothing to upset either the Harbor Seals or their puppies in their Rookery/ Haul Out Site. Would you care for me to go over my credentials once agin?
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 22, 2011
Andrea, Here is an easy one for you to grasp. How about an increasing population? Any animal that is threatened, endangered, or in trouble is suffering from a lowering population, not an increasing one. If the seals were threatened or harassed at the Children’s Pool, they would not come back there. They would probably move to one the other close by established documented rookeries to the north or south of there. The seals are staying there for two major reasons, there is an abundant food supply, and there safe from predators that normally prey on seals. Once the population in the area grows beyond what the area can feed, you will begin to see starvation of seals until a balance is achieved. Once the balance is achieved, you will see more and more predators that eat seals coming into play. After all if you put the smorgasbord out, the tax man will come. From a scientific point of view, it will be awesome to see a version of Air Jaws off of La Jolla.
As far as your so called “academic” background I saved them for a laugh and pasted it below.
By: Andrea Hahn
When I went to graduate school on a full academic scholarship with a stipend Emmet, I stayed away from my family’s considerable ties to higher education, becoming the top candidate of the University I finally selected all by myself. You see, I come from a family of top scientists and self taught geniuses, wherein universities such as North Western and the Wesleyn Colleges were as a matter of fact founded by one such self taught Great Grandfather of mine, not to forgetting to mention the considerable support lent to Yale University by another self taught Great Grandfather following the Revolution, when the Nation was still in it’s fledgling stages and he was a man of considerable influence. Actually, to be perfectly frank, the formation of the, Nation’s first public school happened under the guidance of this self taught Great Grandfather of mine from Rhode Island. Of course my Great Grand Mother to whom he was married coinvented the Cotton Gin and she was only just a great beauty.
By Emmet on Jul 22, 2011
Ok I get what your criteria is Emmet and thank you for saving and reposting my comment in its entirety. Really saves me the task of having to do it all over again, even though I was having trouble condencing complex information into a few short sentances with the a mass of information I had to give on the subject of primary, secondary, and higher education in the United States, and would most likely have prudently edited it on the second publication. Your theory is so much more simple in comparison wherein clearly you need to prove that while participating in the act of culling this Colony of Harbor Seals right in their nest by causing pregnancy distress to the females and later denying the newborns and puppies who survive this any daytime land rest at all; the good will that you feel about your self imposed process of elimination of this species does not actually upset the animal you are attempting to cull. I can see how you can fill a whole page with simple sentences and then leave some pages blank. I particularly admire your thoughts on how any presence of this species within their habitiat agrees with your theory that there are too many of them. I do hope to see it published soon, for the remainder of academia still diagrees with your main scientific point and so being, you will eventually be charged for your academic puruits.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 22, 2011
Andrea, you spelled condensing wrong. Sentences as well. In fact, not only are your comments here rife with blatant spelling errors, there is a disturbing trend of a complete lack of any cogent ideas.
In short, Andrea, I’m having a fairly hard time believing you are as gifted in the brain pan as you claim to be. In fact, it is glaringly obvious to any reasonably intelligent person that all you do is string a bunch of long words together without any real understanding of their meanings in an attempt to sound intelligent.
You remind me of that guy in Princess Bride who keeps saying “inconceivable!!” again and again until the until Enrique Montoyo finally says “You keep using that word. I do not think you know what it means”.
All you are doing is giving the seal haters ammo Andrea. I think our cause would be better served is you stayed away from the rookery for a while so those of us that don’t look insane can show the public that real animal activists are not ranting idiots.
By Jimbo on Jul 25, 2011
I’m sorry jimbo, but I really don’t need a secretary. Thank you for your consideration, but I would really need to check your prison record first before even considering such an option.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 25, 2011
Jimbo should proofread the illiterate compositions his buddies try to write. All of you need to go back to first grade…learn to respect the other “kids”, animals and the planet…or may e even kindergarten!
By L. Silver on Jul 25, 2011
Why would you be inclined to do that Andrea?
Would you NOT hire me were I to have a clean background?
One could easily come to that conclusion owing to your apparent inclination to associate yourself with violent sociopaths and criminals, a predilection easily explained when taken in the context of your own illegal behaviors.
Further, you are in need of a secretary, dire need. If for no reason other than when you put forth your inane ramblings, their already not understandable nature is greatly amplified by your obviously tenuous grasp on such simple concepts as proper grammar and spelling, amplified to the point that whatever tiny point your so severely limited brain has fixed on and is trying to relate is lost in a wilderness of incomprehensible, meaningless drivel.
As I previously posited, your mere presence at the rookery is a burden to the seals and tremendously retards the ability of people who can actually effect positive change to effect said change.
In short, don’t go away mad, just go away.
By Jimbo on Jul 25, 2011
Jimbo my lad, you’ve been denied. Do try to take this one very small and insignificant slight like a man for once in your life without the purulence.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 25, 2011
Andrea, I have to admit, it seems like you use the thesaurus for looking for synonyms of the words you want to use. The problem is that you often select the wrong synonym. I think you might have outstretched your skillset and it is hurting you conveyance of your ideas. Maybe you need to practice with more simple concepts and then use the words once you actually understand their meaning.
By SealBurgers on Jul 26, 2011
I see no difficulty in using a general term for puss formation as a description of your opinon as a whole.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 26, 2011
I see no exertion in using a lexicon either. The point is that your spectators won’t know what you are chin-wagging about.
By cyberKICK on Jul 26, 2011
Exertion from you cyberkick? How macabre!
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 26, 2011
Andrea, why the angry response? I am, after all, merely trying to help the seals.
To be honest, I wouldn’t have a problem with your excessive use of overlong words and obvious posturing as someone far more intelligent than you actually are were those actions to result in positive outcomes for the seals.
Unfortunately, when stripped of the ability to reference your thesaurus, your very limited intelligence is laid bare, as evinced by your actions and command of the english language that is apparently limited to vulgarity.
By that statement I am referencing to your actions at the Rookery when the seal haters brought that shark up on the sidewalk. As offended as your sensibilities may have been, screaming vulgarities at the top of your lungs in front of small children does not cast positive light upon the pro seal movement. In fact, it does a tremendous amount of harm to our cause. Why do you think you are never included in our planning sessions Andrea? You have marginalized yourself and hurt the seals in the process. Obscenity is the refuge of the unintelligent, and it is, sadly, where you go every time. If you were one tenth as intelligent as you consider yourself, you wouldn’t need to resort to “F you, F you, F you, you Bastards” in order to get the better hand from the seal haters.
You are doing far more damage to the seals than good Andrea. This is a public opinion war, and we can win it, but not if you act crazy. Please, for the sake of the seals, stay away from the rookery.
By Jimbo on Jul 28, 2011
Jimbo, you’re confusing anger with bemusment here. It’s alright, I understand your short comings in the matter completely. You and your little friendies have absolutely no practical sense of the macabre to guide you in this somewhat intellectual pursuit that others tend to enjoy so completely despite your ignorance. This is primarily because both as a group and as individuals you just so happen to embody it so very nicely. This is precisely why you are always the focal point of the joke and why your attempts at humor are inert.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 28, 2011
I hope some day those guys that scare them off get attacked by one of them someday. get bit right in the ass. Leave them alone! theres plenty of other beaches for your sorry asses to be!
By Amanda on Jul 29, 2011
All right, Andrea. If you are so intelligent, then riddle me this:
Why does your vocabulary shrink to infantile proportions when you speak in public? I would think that one so gifted as you repeatedly claim to be would be possessed of an eloquent turn of phrase, even when confronted with monstrously offensive actions like those of the seal haters, yet you consistently fail to do anything other than resort to monosyllabic vulgarities.
Mayhap you already have a secretary who writes your posts here for you? If so, I suggest a rapid termination of his/her employment, for he/she does not even possess the intelligence to run a simple spellcheck, let alone use words within context.
By the way Andrea, I’m not being humorous.
By Jimbo on Jul 29, 2011
Although it was rather decisively rendered earlier in the program, I thought I might back track a little for the sake of posterity and look up the word “Twat” for you jimbo. I was quite right, it fits you very nicely as well.
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 29, 2011
While SDsealover has taken it upon himself to help his friends emmet, cyberkick, and jimbo out of the embarassing social stigma they rendered themselves ever so poignantly into, by heroically proselytizing their excessive use of self pity, ignorance, and regurgitation as holy ordinances to their collective mantra; permit me to continue with my study on this, their now highly accepted set behavior patternall on behalf of the special effort contributed just now by SDsealover in cleanly establishing their set behavior pattern, which as we all know goes from purulence, to twat, to macabre, and then back to purulence for another spin. It’s amazing how they constantly keep it moving
By Andrea Hahn on Jul 31, 2011
Yet you still cannot answer simple questions about seals. This is all about the seals? Right?
By Emmet on Aug 1, 2011
No matter how unsubstantiated, I just went over your criteria with you emmet. I’m sorry if you can’t remember your own comments or for that matter, theories, but I certainly understand why you choose to forget them. It’s akin to helping yourself from yourself without actually saving yourself. This is where SDsealover comes in.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 1, 2011
I must have missed it too, how exactly did you explain the raise in successful births and surviving pups this year? It seems to me that if the distress was so severe they would not come back, and certainly wouldn’t have had a record number of successful births. Where are all the dead and drowning pups?
By SealBurgers on Aug 2, 2011
I guess I need to explain to you Seal Burgers, that a Colony of over 225 animals would have a birth rate consistent with the number of birthing females in it, especially when it is federally classified as a Rookery; but fear not my little man, the photographic evidence from the still births and abandonments of the lifeless and or dying puppies found floating in the pool or lying on the beach were duly recorded during this year’s pre birthing and birthing stages of the pupping season, virtually all of which having faithfully been submitted to the NMFS, the City Council, and the news media for further review right along with the video sent to me by your very own, of one particular headless puppy that was really quite amusing for you. Also very important to note for the purposes of identification were the numerous birth patches without the remainder of either a mother or puppy. Here, I clearly remember your group catching wind of this and then calling the government over a fecal smear just to show how knowledgable you were about Harbor Seal biology, thereby making it seem as if you were being attentive to this said biology. You should really try to learn the difference between feces and after birth sometime.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 2, 2011
Again Andrea, you haven’t explained the increase in successful births. There were over 45 this year. More and more every year are being born. If the stress was so high, how do you account for the increase? Also, since you mention 225 animals in the colony, where did you get that. The report I read said over 500 seperate animals have been seen and documented at The Children’s Pool, and another 600 in Point Loma. Are you suggesting that all should be giving birth at The Children’s Pool? How large a population can the pool support? What happens when the pool reaches that magic number?
According to the marine biologists about 1/3 should be stillborn, that would be around 15. Do you have record of that many stillborn? I was under the impression there were about 4 or 5.
As for your comment about feces, what are you talking about? It is obvious when you are down on the sand whether or not a stain is blood or diarrhea. Even if you are unable to see the difference (can’t image how) you certainly can smell it. Maybe from the sidewalk it is hard to tell.
By SealBurgers on Aug 2, 2011
Why Seal Burgers, you don’t seem to care for the documented information given to you only just this morning??? It reminds me so much of the tactic used by those of your intellectual leanings only this last January as the puppies were dying one after the other, where upon red colored koolaide was spritizted upon on a repeat birthing spot next to the stairs in order to mimic a birth patch. David Pierce stood over it for the longest time trying to look observant while he photographed it so the authorities could see the good see what he was doing.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 2, 2011
Here is Andrea’s theory of explanation that no one but herself can understand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Slxr_JwEA
By Emmet on Aug 2, 2011
You really are making a truly wonderful name for myself emmet! I suppose you think you’re utilizing a little ad hominem in a thinly veiled attempt to hide your own shame at being so noticabely cowardly and pointedly effeminate, wherein according to your colluded thinking no one at all will ever notice and this is what will finally make you a man. Especially since you thought Ethan, who I have since read not only needs a gun, but is no longer considered Cool, was actually supposed to bully me; but still, how very nice of you to do this for me. There really should be a disclaimer or two on this marked lack of virility that I’m up against, however. In all fairness, all the other pro seal ladies as well as myself would prefer to earn our medals among men.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 2, 2011
Andrea, you still fail to answer my question.
If you are as brilliant as you claim, and actually do know what one third of the words you use here mean, let alone have the ability to use them within context, where does this marvelous vocabulary go when you are in public?
How come your arguments in public consist of (and I quote) “Fuck off”, “Piss off”, and your eternal favorite: “Go to hell”? All spoken, of course, at high volume in front of small children who are simply trying to walk down a public thoroughfare without having profanity rained upon their young ears.
Though your apparent inability (or is it perhaps denial, for responding to my question would force you to admit to yourself the depth of your fraudulent self misrepresentation?) to answer my question about your mysteriously varying vocabulary leads me to believe that you will also refuse to answer a couple more reasonable questions, I’ll ask them anyways, if for no other reason than to demonstrate to the innocent bystanders that those of us here in support of the seals are not unreasonable loons:
So, Andrea, do you really feel that your profanity laden rants actually HELP the seals? By this I mean, do you think that screaming the F word over and over in the presence of children who have nothing to do with your cause will make the parents of said children support the seals?
By Jimbo on Aug 3, 2011
Andrea, once again you do not know what you are talking or writing about. The more and more rope you are given the better noose you are hanging yourself with. You know nothing of the seals, you know nothing of Ethan and you certainly know nothing on how to use a Thesaurus.
I posted the video to shed light on how people tend to perceive people who obviously have no idea that the words they are using only make them look foolish, or in your case, stupid. Mark Twain once wrote: “It is better to be thought of a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt”. You have removed all doubt without question. I noticed you only recently started with changing your language after you posted your BS educational background. How did that Cotton Gin thing work out?
I will give you another shot at redemption at your knowledge.
Now please explain why despite all the claimed harrassment of the seals at the Children’s pool, there was a record number of births of Harbor Seal pups this year.
Could it of been the Gill Net iniative that moved all the gill nets out to a three mile coastal limit? Maybe with the increased food for foraging the Seals are thriving. El Ninoor a La Nina year play into that at all? Algea blooms? Grunion runs? White Shark populations down or up? Check out any chlorophyll charts and graphs and give me your honest opinion of what they mean to the cycle of life here.
What are your thoughts on these? After all the time you spend on the beach, you must of picked up a few facts.
Really give an honest answer for a change.
By Emmet on Aug 3, 2011
Jimbo my boy and emmet, it’s always best not to argue with an idiot, for in these situations the idiot will always blather inanities in lieu of making any changes in rational when an error has been revealed. As this is the path you have chosen to follow in the vain hope that continuing in error will get you out of trouble, I’m not going to correct you, but let your falsehoods stand on their own merit in print.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 3, 2011
Andrea, once again you have opened your mouth and removed all doubt.
Yes, you are an idiot and I will no longer argue with you on that fact.
I just pray you have taken yourself out of the gene pool and your idiocy will die out as you as the last of your kind. A pity really. Guess the cotton gin thing didn’t work out in your favor.
Any chance you want to discuss the seals?
By Emmet on Aug 3, 2011
Why emmet? Now you’re using my argument to support yourself? How disappointing, so many people must have thought you knew what you were doing when all along you were only just trying to be an Andrea Hahn look alike. I have to tell you, it just contributes futher to making me all the more complacent, but why would I want to explain myself to you? It would just add complicity to a bad situation when you really should be trying to be your own man? We already made an accounting of your scientific critera and it made you run away. Your good friend Seal Burgers had to take over and then he ran away too. jimbo frightens easily at his own hand as well, but would still like to be my secretary, which indicates some small need for independence while still being in servitude to me. This I would consider an improvment over your condition, but he fails in basic higher language skills by refering to everything beyond his comprehension as verbose. None the less and under the prevailing circumstances, it might be better for to you utilize his secretarial skills by having him go over the previous comments on this page where seals are discussed, and by this I don’t mean only your own.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 3, 2011
Andrea, I’m sure someone who appreciates ironic humor as you claim to finds YOU writing “it’s always best not to argue with an idiot, for in these situations the idiot will always blather inanities” quite hilarious. Alas, the fact you don’t get it simply removes all doubt as to the true extent of your delusional nature when it comes to your own level of intelligence (or lack thereof).
I guess I’ll have to keep it simple from here on out so that you may understand my questions and actually respond, since when I ask them using words with more than one syllable you apparently cannot grasp them and that must be the reason of your non responses.
So here goes, questions you can understand:
When you scream bad words in front of kids, does it make you look good or bad?
When you say you will lie to cops, does it make you look good or bad?
When you look bad, do you think that helps the seals, or hurts their cause?
There, I asked in terms even someone with the intelligence of an average 4 year old can understand. (i know this because I asked a 4 year old and he was able to answer).
Now, see if you can be as smart as a 4 year old Andrea.
By Jimbo on Aug 4, 2011
Jimbo my boy, clearly no one is more upset than you, but crying incessantly, especially when no one is listening is not going to help you feel any better. Remember, you are representational of the macabre and you have no sense of humor to fall back on in the first place.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 4, 2011
I have to ask, what does your response have to do with the questions Jimbo asked?
When you scream bad words in front of kids, does it make you look good or bad?
When you say you will lie to cops, does it make you look good or bad?
When you look bad, do you think that helps the seals, or hurts their cause?
By cyberKICK on Aug 4, 2011
Oh boy, here comes cyberkick to save the day! Now what are you so tremendously confused for and how will this help jimbo when all you really have are your own tender feelings.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 4, 2011
Again Andrea, what does your response have to do with the questions as hand?
“When you scream bad words in front of kids, does it make you look good or bad?
When you say you will lie to cops, does it make you look good or bad?
When you look bad, do you think that helps the seals, or hurts their cause?”
By cyberKICK on Aug 4, 2011
Awe gee wiz cyberkick, you’re just trying to be clever again with the misconception that your audience has an intellegence quotient far below your own. I see no reason to support this.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 4, 2011
Another video that reminds of asking a question to Andrea since she remembered her vast bullshit education. Too bad it all in her head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGbzKUmgmrM
Maybe you could take some of that royalty money from your end of the profit from the cotton gin invention and pay for Bryan Pease to file an appeal or two. Better yet Andie, some couch time with a very good therapist for her is in order to work on her Bi-polar outbursts and delusions of grandeur she suffers from.
Or, you could do some volunteer work at Seaworld and learn a thing or two about the seals you claim to represent.
By Emmet on Aug 4, 2011
Wow emmet, I guess you speak on behalf of all of your collegues. Really nice come back for you and your friends after after taking such a beating in credibility.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 4, 2011
Andie-Beating in credibility?
Like when you stated this,
Of course my Great Grand Mother to whom he was married co-invented the Cotton Gin.
How about this,
I come from a family of top scientists and self taught geniuses.
Can you name one?
Or this, my personnel favorite that makes me laugh,
I stayed away from my family’s considerable ties to higher education, becoming the top candidate of the University I finally selected all by myself.
And you cannot answer one (or any) simple question about the seals. Your credibility has been severely assaulted to the point of attempted homicide, or even murdered.
By Emmet on Aug 5, 2011
If my geneolgy makes you feel uncomfortable emmet, then why do you cling so to the pup count that Seal Watch and I have been collectiing over the past many years as a means of attempting to expose us of being in denial of our own pup count, and how does this correspond to reality?
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 5, 2011
Emmet and Jimbo, I think she is conceding that she doesn’t know why the seals are doing so well. I think she is also conceding that her actions make her and her cause look bad. She just doesn’t want to write it.
By cyberKICK on Aug 5, 2011
At this point in time cyberkick, I would like to give a special thanks and acknowledgement to Mad Magazine’s “Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions” segment which influenced me so much in my youth while still having the motivational power to inspire me to this very moment now that I have found this corpulent sense of false propriety within you.
By Andrea Hahn on Aug 5, 2011
why can’t the seals have this one little beach? You fish killer seal haters should be ashamed of yourselves.
By cp4seals on Aug 5, 2011
Cyberkick, you got to admit it sure is fun to watch her squirm in stupidity.
By Emmet on Aug 6, 2011
cp4seals, the fact is, the seals do have complete access to this little beach. They are free to come and go as they please. What you want (creating a marine reserve for the harbor seals at cp) sorely lacks critical thinking and consideration of all the environmental factors involved, not to mention, it’s ILLEGAL.
By tim777 on Aug 10, 2011