San Diego Seal Watch

YOU ARE LYING AGAIN DOROTA.

Those seals hauled ou wih all the people there and weren’t the least bit disturbedf.

Why? Because hey are human acclimaed since they were released at the children’s pool by SEAWORLD. This is not a natural seting, and the seals are not behaving naturally.

The reason the mayor doesn’t see it as an emergency is that there IS NO EMERGENCY.

The only emergency is in the sick brains of the violent animal rights activists there like you.

By Concerned La Jollan on Aug 29, 2010

Hey, saw you lying on the news the other night… why not try the truth from time to time, just to shake things up?

By cyberKICK on Aug 31, 2010

Dorota, just stop the seals from coming onto the beach. No more harassment; people can see the seals over on seal rock and the rocks on the other side of the wall; no more foul smells. The seals are happy; the people are happy. Everybody wins.

By Balanced on Sep 1, 2010

Balanced, she needs to see them from that sidewalk. If she wanted to see them from another sidewalk she would. Seals are all over the place.

By cyberKICK on Sep 1, 2010

The anti-seal idiots of La Jolla are becoming ***well known*** around the world as complete assholes. They should be aware that their constant harassment of the seals and the people that are trying to protect the seals is a source of disgust to people around the world. People can’t believe how screwed up you are !!!
The comments I see here (cyberKICK, Balanced, and Concerned La Jollan) are examples of their pathetic childish boorish behavior.
If you think you are merely posting here and that’s it, think again.

By fsivada on Sep 1, 2010

Yeah, it doesn’t matter that seals are everywhere. We only want to see them from this one man-made beach. We should build more beaches just for the seals. And we can protect the Great White Sharks too since we killed so many of them also. These seals are the perfect food for them. Maybe we’ll get lucky and see a Great White jump out of the water with a seal in its mouth just like on those nature shows. Protect the seals. But don’t you think it is gross that they have to roll around in their own excrement? Shouldn’t the City have to provide a clean place for them to rest? After all, this development wasn’t designed for seals to live on it. The City should maintain it for the seals because without this man-made beach how would anyone ever see seals in their natural environment. Protect the seals.

By Jeff on Sep 2, 2010

Well, if the seals are in such danger here, why not simply move them in to sea world? Or maybe build another beach for them?

By cyberKICK on Sep 2, 2010

As Jeff seems to have pointed out (albiet sort of accidently), it is a man-made development. How can you say that a man made artifical beach is their natural habitat? By allowing the seals to occupy that beach, you are violating the MMPA and the Coastal Act. On top of that, because this beach doesn’t have proper circulation, the seals are laying in their own defication. It is a violation of the Animal Welfare Act (AWA) to allow the seals to live in such conditions on a development. NOAA has already said the city can simply shoo them away with no permits necessary. The courts have ordered the beach cleaned, and the City of La Jolla has already voiced they want them gone. It is so easy for people who live far away to want the in someones elses back yard. Keeping the seals there is expensive because so many laws have to be violated in order to keep them there.

By cyberKICK on Sep 2, 2010

cyberKICK, you spew forth crap, utter crap. Please base your writing on an occasional fact, with a document or two to back it up.

By fsivada on Sep 2, 2010

fsivada,

I can’t post links… but I do have documentatin of everything I have said. If Dorota would allow me to post the documentation I would.

By cyberKICK on Sep 3, 2010

fsivada,
The MMPA and the California Coastal Act both allow for the removal of the seals from this development and there is nothing anti-seal about it. It is for the benefit of the seals.
Would scaring a mouse away from a mouse trap be harmful to the mouse?
The seals should be in a healthy environment without contamination and risk of disease. This development is unintentionally harmful to seals since the seals are allowed to roll around in each other’s excrement. It was not designed to be a litter box for seals.
You don’t find that disgusting?
Do you bathe in your toilet after you’ve used it without flushing?

By Balanced on Sep 3, 2010

fsivada,

have you read the MMPA, the California Coastal Act, the Animal Welfare Act, or the findings of the La Jolla Coastal Planning Committe?

By cyberKICK on Sep 5, 2010

As a recent out-of-towner I was wondering where I could go to show my daughter the seals and other wild-life. After doing a quick Internet search I stumbled on this web-site. Although I appreciate what is being attempted, i think that advertising that this is a place to view the seals (and/or sea lions) is more hurting your cause than it is helping. Most of the people going down to your beach were tourists and no doubt would have gone elsewhere if it weren’t for re attention that you are bringing to the area.

Be careful what you wish for!

By RecentVisitor on Sep 6, 2010

Marine mammals make comeback
Sharks may be right behind

By Mike Lee, UNION-TRIBUNE

Saturday, September 4, 2010 at 6 p.m.

Populations of sea lions such as this one near Shelter Island have boomed since Congress passed protections for marine mammals in 1972.
Shark encounters rising

Decades of data suggest that the white shark population is growing off the coast of California, some shark experts said as the final big beach weekend of the summer approached.

They attribute it to a dramatic increase in food sources, such as sea lions, prohibitions against catching sharks and other factors.

“What we are seeing is exactly what we should expect to see if you are going to put in protections for a population,” Chris Lowe , who runs the Shark Lab at California State University Long Beach.

He recently completed a study of shark reports by fishermen over the past century. Lowe won’t release specific numbers because they are under review by a scientific journal but he said his findings support the theory that white sharks are coming back off the state’s coast.

The nonprofit Shark Research Committee, which has tracked shark encounters since the 1960s, has verified 53 attacks on the West Coast since 2000 — about half the total for the entire 20th century.

Founder Ralph Collier suspects it’s a sign that shark numbers are growing but he said such theories are hard to prove because beach use by people has risen dramatically and boosted the chances for run-ins with the predators.

That’s certainly the case in La Jolla, where lifeguards warned beachgoers to watch for white sharks in mid-August. People started reporting the feared creatures all over.

“People have sharks on the mind,” said San Diego Lifeguard Sgt. Rich Stropky.

When Congress created a marine mammal safety net in the early 1970s, many creatures living along the nation’s coastlines were in deep distress.

“They have been shot, blown up, clubbed to death, run down by boats, poisoned and exposed to a multitude of other indignities, all in the interests of profit or recreation,” said a legislative report in 1971.

The extent to which such actions seem strange four decades later is a testament to how the Marine Mammal Protection Act has changed social norms. Biologists said the federal law has done more than that: The general ban on hunting and harassment is viewed as a major reason why several marine mammal populations are thriving in coastal California to the point that some people wonder whether there are too many of certain animals.

Scientists tend to downplay talk about overpopulation. Marine mammals are an important element in the food chain, they said, and they will be kept in check by top feeders such as great white sharks that also may be increasing along the California coast.

“It’s been pretty damn successful,” said David Cottingham, chief of marine mammal conservation for the National Marine Fisheries Service, which enforces protections for sea life. “If you stop killing wildlife, they reproduce. … When prey is abundant, these predators do pretty well.”

Rising numbers of marine mammals don’t please everyone. Fisheries officials reported more than 230 sea lions died from gunshots in a recent five-year period, likely the result of anglers frustrated by competing with the animals for fish.

In La Jolla, fights have erupted during the ongoing debate about whether seals or people have top priority at the Children’s Pool beach. And in Orange County, pinnipeds have gathered on boats and sunk them, angering vessel owners.

Jay Barlow, a biologist for the fisheries service in La Jolla, said he’s not aware of an overall assessment of the mammal protection act, but the species-by-species reports his agency publishes each year show several successes.

Harbor seals are an example familiar to beachgoers in San Diego County. They have taken over the Children’s Pool cove and they haul out at roughly 1,000 other spots along the California coast.

Only a few hundred survived hunting in the 19th century but their numbers skyrocketed past 34,000 after marine mammal protections went into place.

Humpback whales in the North Pacific also have bounced back, from an estimated 1,200 in 1966 to roughly 20,000 in 2006, the fisheries service said.

California sea lion numbers also have risen remarkably since tens of thousands were hunted for their whiskers, testes and oil in the late 1800s and pet food in late 1930s.

By the 1970s, there were roughly 50,000 of California sea lions. The population recently hit 238,000.

It’s not clear how big the numbers can get before sea lions reach the carrying capacity of the state’s shoreline ecosystem. “There have been lots of predictions that sea lions are there, and every one of them turns out to be wrong,” Barlow said.

Barlow said the marine mammal act isn’t the only factor that has benefitted coastal animals. Whales got a big boost from international treaties that limit harvest and southern sea otters are guarded by the U.S. Endangered Species Act.

Not every species protected by the marine mammal law is on the upswing. Right whales and monk seals aren’t thriving and southern sea otters continue to flounder.

In early August, the U.S. Geological Survey said the annual count of southern sea otters were down for the second year in a row with roughly 2,700 statewide.

Several factors likely are behind the trend, including predation by sharks. The Monterey Bay Aquarium reported at least three young otters in August whose mothers appear to have been attacked by great whites.

“The proportion of otter strandings attributable to shark bite mortality has increased dramatically over the last decade or so,” said Brian Hatfield at the Geological Survey in Santa Cruz.

Rising shark encounters don’t surprise Chris Lowe, director of the Shark Lab at California State University Long Beach. His research into shark-human interactions over the past century suggests a growing population of great whites in California’s coastal zone.

Lowe said the success of creatures shielded by the Marine Mammal Protection Act is a likely contributor because it means more food for apex predators.

“Those populations have come back better than anybody predicted,” he said.

Mike Lee: (619)293-2034; mike.lee@uniontrib.com. Follow on Twitter @sdenvirobeat.

By califia on Sep 7, 2010

I keep hearing about how they want to “protect” wildlife… yet they keep it out at home. If ants come in, do they protect the ants as not to disturb their behavior? No, because the home isn’t their natural environment. It is a development. Exactly like the development built for the purpose of allowing children to learn to swim in the ocean while staying safe. That is why the lifeguard headquartesrs is there. Why they clinic is there, and why the wall is there. The other beaches aren’t nearly as well equipped. The anti-beach use people would have the kids to to much more dangerous beaches so the seals aren’t disturbed. However, the seals very use of the development is a modification of their behavior.

By cyberKICK on Sep 7, 2010

I hope that La Jolla becomes ***well known*** around the world. But it won’t be for anti-seal people. It will be for the pathetic childish behavior of people who claim to be ***protecting*** the seals in a ***public park*** and asking for money to do it. So since 1931 until recently, people ***and seals*** have been peacefully using this ***public park***. It has only been since people trying to ***protect*** the seals has there been an issue.
Let me ask you a simple question fsivada, and any other seal activist.
What in the world are you protecting the seals from? I mean there are literally thousands of places that seals use to haul out and rest and give birth all along the coast of California. The few that do choose to use the Children’s pool aren’t bothered by people. In fact, some of them appear to prefer being around people.
Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot; you can’t see them unless the seals use the Children’s Pool. So that’s what this is all about. Seal activists want to look at seals. Do you touch yourself when you look at them?
Take a picture and hang it on your wall. It lasts longer. You can even scoop up some seal excrement to get the smell right.
Since 1931 how many people have been bitten by a seal? -0-
Between 1926-2009 how many people in California are recorded to have been bitten by a shark? -12- and 2 died-
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/sharks/statistics/gattack/mapca.htm
And the City is putting up a rope to protect the public from the seals? The City should be putting up a rope to protect people from sharks; or just something to keep the seals away from people since seals do attract sharks.
Get your priorities straight.

By Balanced on Sep 8, 2010

I love seals and sea lions. I also love reality. Every time I swim, surf, scuba dive, snorkel, kayak, fish, boat, or walk along the ocean for long, all of which happen quite often, I see lot’s of seals and sea lions. I enjoy their deliberate play around me in the water. They are all over San Diego and southern California. The population in southern California is now 200,000. Let’s not pretend like they are an endagered species and need the Children’s Pool. I have always shared the ocean with seals and sea lions and don’t need fanatics trying to outlaw my use of beaches with their misguided understanding. You find the fanatics mostly on the sidewalk at the Children’s Pool instead of actually in the ocean. I am happy to share with all marine life, like has been done my whole life and 50 years in La Jolla. The “pro-seal” fanaticism is drvien by businesses in La Jolla that want tourist dollars, and a few fanatics that need a better cause to get behind (maybe all the kids in San Diego that go to bed hungry, or something?).

By Ocean Lover on Sep 9, 2010

Reality check: Sea lion population maxing out in southern California according to NOAA. There is nothing to “SAVE.” The population is way beyond safe. See article http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/pdfs/permits/imms_appendix_c.pdf

STATUS OF STOCK
A generalized logistic growth model of pup counts obtained during 1975-2005 (excluding El Niño years)
indicated that the population reached its Maximum Net Productivity Level (MNPL) of 39,800 pups in 1997 and has
reached carrying capacity (K) at 46,800 pups per year (z = 19.09, Rmax = 0.0652, n0 = 10,100, SE = 1,055) (Figure
3). This determination should be taken with caution until more years of data have been collected to verify whether
the flattening of the generalized logistic curve persists in future years. California sea lions in the U.S. are not listed
as “endangered” or “threatened” under the Endangered Species Act or as “depleted” under the MMPA.

By Ocean Lover on Sep 9, 2010

From the Union Tribune:
“The nonprofit Shark Research Committee, which has tracked shark encounters since the 1960s, has verified 53 attacks on the West Coast since 2000 — about half the total for the entire 20th century.”
The City should be protecting people from sharks not seals.

By Balanced on Sep 9, 2010

my goodness,,alot if dirty words…GOD BLESS THE SEALS…shame on all of you who messed with that baby seal….and shame on your mayor…what a total butt head…an glad i don’t live in calif….at least in ks..we protect what is ours..i sent my e-mail in to the mayor..shame on him and shame on the rest of you…we need to learn to live with wildlife and people…or it will not be here for the future…go dorota..i have your back…

By kimmie on Sep 10, 2010

Yeah, if the seals can’t use the Children’s Pool, they will go extinct. They will all drown because Seal Rock isn’t big enough for all of them. It sure is a good thing that Children’s Pool was built in 1931 otherwise we would have lost the seals forever.

By Jeff on Sep 10, 2010

So, I guess all those marine biologists that say seals and sea lions are at or approaching carrying capacity for our coastline are all wrong. So what number of these animals is the correct amount? How many do we need? You say 34000 isn’t enough, so what it? The total number of common (harbor) seals worldwide is over 400000, and many cities are designating them nuisance animals. Even NOAA gives recommendations on how to get rid of them. NOAA, marine biologists, and even people who frequent the coastal waters and beaches are all wrong.
I have documentation of all this, but Dorota deletes all my posts with links in them. She doesn’t like facts.

By cyberKICK on Sep 10, 2010

The total harbor seal population in the eastern north Pacific is estimated to be 500,000, and in California the estimated population was 34,233 in 2009. They are usually found in small groups, but sometimes occur in numbers of up to 500.

http://www.marinemammalcenter.org/education/marine-mammal-information/pinnipeds/pacific-harbor-seal/

By Balanced on Sep 10, 2010

Balanced, that article is a bit incorrect. I found on wikipedia that there are about 500000 worldwide. The real problem is on the nmfs it is stated that they don’t know how many there are because the numbers are so high. What they do is look at how many pups are born, and then do some math to guess how many seals there are. There are just too many to count. It would be like counting ants.

By cyberKICK on Sep 10, 2010

we are talking about san diego seals..nothing else…you mayor did not have the balls to e-mail back..so much for his pay…what a jerk..thank you jeff..cyberkick…i still have respect for you…as long as you respect me…HEY MR.MAYOR..I E-MAIL YOU AND YOU DID NOT REPALY…SHAME ON YOU…IF I WAS IN CALIF…I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR YOU.

By kimmie on Sep 11, 2010

What is the difference between a san diego seal, and a Point Loma seal? Are the seals in Los Angeles different too?

By cyberKICK on Sep 11, 2010

I was down at the children’s pool today. The seals were all in the water, yet when I walked on the beach, the person manning the “sealwatch” table screamed that I was a “f##king seal molester”.

Dorota, why do you and your friends scream obsceniies in front of children?

I mean, we all know you are just plain insane, but is it really so hard to keep your language clean in front of children.

Psycho.

By Concerned La Jollan on Sep 12, 2010

@Kimmie…..

Kimmie, do you support people like dorota swearing at children? How about when they harass and even assult beachgoers when there are no seals even on the beach?

Since you obviously don’t live anywhere near here Kimmie, how do you even pretend to know the first thing about about what’s going on?

I think it’s really pathetic to see someone actually supporting a group that thinks it’s OK to scream obscenities at CHILDREN. You are sick in the head if you think that’s acceptable behaviour kimmie.

By Concerned La Jollan on Sep 12, 2010

Kimmie, did you even look at the pictures on this web page? Over 100 seals on the beach. How many people are allowed to peacefully use the beach? I see about 25 people in these pictures but they are rarely left in peace. Who is getting more use out of the beach; people or seals? Look at the pictures again. 100 seals or 25 people; which do you think is greater, 100 or 25?
Seals clearly don’t need to be on the beach at the same time as people. But there is one Major difference between people and seals using the beach. People don’t leave their feces and urine on the beach. After 100 seals have used the beach what do you think it is going to smell like? Take a wild guess.
In a natural setting, seals will use rocks or beaches that are cleaned by high tides. The tide doesn’t get high enough to clean the Children’s Pool Beach. The smell is one of the reasons that the La Jolla Community Groups don’t want the seals using the Children’s Pool as a litter box. And another reason is the constant harassment, yelling, and lies by money grubbing children haters.
If you want to see seals at the Children’s Pool, they are on Seal Rock every day except at high tide. Use the zoom on your camera.
Leave the Children’s Pool to the Children for whom it was specifically designed and built for.

By Balanced on Sep 13, 2010

By The Way: The City has the Authority to prevent the seals from damaging public property, which the Children’s Pool is, and what feces and urine do.

http://www.swr.noaa.gov/deter/index.htm#What_deterrence_methods_for_sea_lions_and_seals_are_available_to_the_public

Do the MMPA and ESA grant additional authority to government officials?

Yes. The MMPA and ESA provide authority to city, county, state, and federal government officials or their employees to deter “nuisance” marine mammals to prevent damage to public property or to protect the public from potential threats by a nuisance animal (read more).

http://www.swr.noaa.gov/deter/Reference_Section.htm#Section_109(h)

By Balanced on Sep 13, 2010

I respect you kimmie and I like your posts. people should definitely vacate anywhere that animals want to go. There are too many people on this planet and they are the worst polluters and destroyers of animal habitat and even their own habitat. I’m glad to hear that these seals are polluting this beach that people want so bad just because people built it. And I hope birds poop all over their polluting cars.

By Jeff on Sep 13, 2010

Seals are much stronger swimmers than children, why can’t we let the children have one beach in San Diego without currents and rip tides to swim in. The seals have the whole ocean and many beaches where the bluffs make them inaccessable to people. Seals are at the cove, on seal rock, on the rock on the other side of the wall, at Point Loma, Ocean Beach, Pacific Beach, and even in Del Mar. I’ve seen them go right by the OB pier and try to get a lure from a fisherman (probably why you see them from time to time with hooks in them).

Why doesn’t anybody care about the Sea Otter which is really in trouble? With 500,000+ seals and only 2,600 sea otters, who do you think needs protection? We could bring in a Sea Otter to THE CHILDREN’S POOL and then we would have a Marine Mammal Park (as long as it is in captivity).

Just one small beach for children isn’t asking too much is it?

By cyberKICK on Sep 13, 2010

These anti-seal nutjobs are simply ridiculous. I just learned that I’m supporting an anti-human vegan conspiracy by wanting this beach reserved for seals. I was told this to my face AS I WAS EATING IN-AND-OUT BURGER. So by this reasoning, Teddy Roosevelt is the most anti-human person of all time by creating the national parks system. WHAT A MONSTER HE WAS!!! And George W. Bush created a marine reserve near Hawaii. WHAT A LIBERAL HE IS!!!!

Seriously you ultra-right wing nutjobs, my parents taught me an important lesson: PICK YOUR BATTLES. When you find yourself driving across town to protest seals on a SMALL beach, at what point do you realize, “Wow, Im really an angry crybaby…”

By Brian on Sep 15, 2010

Let’s put up ropes on all of the beaches. If there is no reason not to then we should. Then the seals can be protected wherever they want to go.

By Jeff on Sep 16, 2010

Maybe if we simply stopped having children, then there would no longer be a need for to have a safe place to learn to swim in the ocean.

Also, I saw some ducks in the park the other day getting chased by children. Don’t you think that we should rope off the park to protect the duck? They are protected by the “federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act”! Why isn’t anyone protecting them?

I think the only real solution is to stop having kids. If there were no children then all these animals could live in peace.

By cyberKICK on Sep 16, 2010

I’m very glad to hear that the rope has been approved. I cannot understand whatsoever why this reserve for seals has been controversial. They provide tourist money to local businesses. It is the only place to reliably view seals in San Diego. And it would cost so much money to remove them.

The people protesting the seals being there remind me of those ultra-liberal 9/11 Truthers….you got too much time on your hands. Take your anger somewhere else…

By Brian on Sep 16, 2010

The anti-seal protestors might be the most LIBERAL people I’ve ever seen. You want the goverment to spend about a MILLION dollars in the middle or a RECESSION to remove animals that the overwhelming MAJORITY of people want to stay, just because it OFFENDS you.

Oh boo hoo, liberals. The seals and the people won. Now go protest something else that bothers you, like the death penalty or something…

By Brian on Sep 16, 2010

I don’t believe that anyone wants the Seals removed. I know that there are people who want to use the beach but the Seals always come even when the people are there. I always see the Seals whenever I want. Why are you having trouble seeing the Seals? I think the rope is ugly and completely unnecessary. Not only that, those poor Seals have to sit in each others feces and urine. The Seals should be in a clean environment and not lured into a dirty environment by a bunch of selfish, ignorant, uncaring, low-life cheapskates who don’t think about the animals and how they feel. The Seals don’t know any better. The Seals only see a safe beach, not realizing that it is a filthy, diseased, contaminated, shit-hole.

You Brian are NOT pro-Seal, you are pro-selfish. You only care about looking at the seals no matter what the conditions are for the Seals. Get a heart; and a brain. Clean the beach for the Seals. We do.

By Jeff on Sep 16, 2010

Brian, the pro-beach use people aren’t the ones costing all the money. They simply want the city to not violate a contract that guarentees that the beach will forever and always he maintained for the purpose of a save place for children to learn to swim in the ocean. The seal activists are wanting a new wall to be built for the children. The seal activists are the ones filing all the lawsuits. The seal activists are the ones forcing the city to break laws in order to do this (exposing them to move litigation). There was already a court case where it was decided to simply shoo them off that beach, but leave them on all the other beaches in the area. The seals have already taken over many of the beaches in the area. That is why the whole area smells so bad now. The city is even afraid to fix the bathrooms, and have condemed the lifeguard headquarters. Making an already difficult situation worse. If you want to see seals reliabily why not go to Sea World? It is as natural as a man made artifical beach, and many of the seals at seal world have been released here (per their own website).

What is next? Shutting down a prison because some pigeons land on the roof?

By cyberKICK on Sep 16, 2010

Fools and their money are soon parted.

How much has the City parted with?

How about all of those unsuspecting tourists?

And everyone else who simply just want to protect the seals?

But the seals aren’t going anywhere. They never were. What a bunch of fools. No one is trying to get rid of the seals. Just keep the beach clean; something that the City should be doing as required by the CA Coastal Act. So people use the beach; Big deal. So people clean the beach. Good for them and the environment.

So the seals must be protected from having a clean beach. Doesn’t everyone agree with the seal activists; a dirty beach is much better for everything than a clean beach. Then the City can be sued again for violating the CA Coastal Act. Because that’s what we want our tax dollars spent on.

I’m sure that I am not the only person amused by this fiasco.

By Balanced on Sep 16, 2010

Someone said: Why not just go to SeaWorld to see Seals…

I’ll tell you why: BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO SPEND OVER 100 DOLLARS TO TAKE MY FAMILY THERE

And please tell me just ONE Beach besides this one where the “seals have taken over”….just one…if you tell it to me, I drive there and see seals, I’ll concede defeat to you…

By Brian on Sep 17, 2010

I see seals all along the shore.
http://www.a-zsandiegobeaches.com/san_diego_beach_map/pdfs/la_jolla_map.pdf

By Jeff on Sep 17, 2010

So let me get this straight. The seals aren’t cool enough to pay to see them, but the beach that was paid for by a private party to have a special safe place for kids to learn to swim you want to steal from them. There are no other safe beaches in San Diego, and that is why it was built in the first place.

Someone PAID for that beach. You are unwilling to pay for what you want. You’d rather just take from someone else?

By cyberKICK on Sep 17, 2010

I like going to Casa Beach to look at the seals. I never have any problems.

By Bob on Sep 17, 2010

People need to respect the seals.

By Brian on Sep 18, 2010

So is that why you don’t want the kids to have a safe place to swim? Why can’t you respect the seals on the rocks, beaches, buoys, and docks? I mean, they are all over the place. Its like respecting ants.

You asked for another beach, try out Cabrillo Memorial Drive. At the info booth ask where the seals are and they will send you down to a much larger colony than this one.

If you respect the seals, why not then clean up after them. The Childrens Pool was not designed to handle the buildup of sand, and the water doesn’t circulate as it would in a natural settings. The seals deficating on this development don’t have the benefit of the natural cleaning process. It would be in the seals best interest to be simply shoo’d away and land on another more natural beach. It is very unnatural to have seals resting in their own fices.

By cyberKICK on Sep 18, 2010

rian, you are a whiney idiot, and a little retarded if you don’t understand the many reasons why it’s important to keep the beach open.

Maybe you like giving up your rights?

Maybe you hate children?

Maybe you just are so insanely ignorant about the ocean that you don’t undersand that going in the ocean does NOT hurt seals. They actually have to go in the water every day TO EAT. They don’t have the in N out burger option like you do, fatty.

Maybe you don’t undrstand that there are NOT safe beaches for divers in La Jolla to use other than the Children’s pool and the cove, and the cove is illegal for consumptive (lobster divers, spearfishermen,etc) to use, so without the Children’s pool, there are NO protected access points for nearly a mile in eithier direction. If you don’t believe me, look here to see what happens when people try to use other acces points when there is surf: http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=41651&highlight=blood+boomers Does that guy look SAFE to you Brian?

Do you know the average wrongful death setlement against a city in Ca starts at 3.5 MILLION dollars? As soon as the city knowingly takes away the ONLY safe and LEGAL exit for fishermen, they are liable for any injuries and deaths in the area – there is plenty of case law to support this….. Are YOU gonna pay those settlements Brian? I doubt it. The city can’ afford to close the beach…

By Concerned La Jollan on Sep 19, 2010

What am I missing here??? The beach has been effectively lost to the seals for DECADES!!!…. This didnt just happen in the past year or so. They took it over in the 1950′s and the rope went up in 1994. SIXTEEN YEARS AGO.

I have also talked to several business owners in the area and I have yet to talk to a single one that wants humans on that beach. That small beach, a LONG-STANDING TOURIST ATTRACTION, whether you like it or not, brings much revenue to La Jolla.

But liberals, such as Concerned La Jollan, arent concerned with the revenue of business owners. Nor are they concerned with the fact that San Diegans have grown to LOVE this tourist attraction for decades. Nor does he/she care that it would cost the city a million dollars to clean the beach. Its silly to say that the pro-seal people are costing the city, if a lawsuit wasnt brought up to remove the seals, then no tax money would be spent right now.

Kinda reminds me of the gay marriage debate. People who THINK they are conservative are actually more liberal than the whiniest tree-hugging liberal. Let me make the goverment spend lots of money and make something a political issue that certainly doesnt need to be simply because it personally offends a few people. Get over it. Youre offended by a small beach being reserved for seals? You certainly dont own a business in La Jolla. Youre another tea-partier who cannot let the “liberals” win a battle as small as this one, and yet you dont realize that youre actually more liberal than they are. Sad…

By Brian on Sep 21, 2010

Yeah Concerned La jollan, I dont understand that seals belong in the ocean, hahaha. Have you read my posts or simply ASSUME that I’m saying things that Im not. I know the seals will be fine without this beach. I dont care about that. I just want to be able to preserve this tourist attraction. And yes, its beyond me that people such as yourself are so offended by it. Theres lots of things to be pissed off about in this world, but a small beach being roped off to the public isnt one of em. Am I giving up my rights? No, because I can use any one of the other 24534 beaches on the coast. In my opinion, youre working against my rights seeing as how I want to view seals at ONE reliable location and you want to take this away from me and you want the revenue from tourists to go away from the local business owners.

But keep on acting like I’m some tree-hugging liberal if it makes you feel better. I’m sure you think Obama is from Kenya and that I’m smoking a bong right now also. Whatever keeps you at ease…

By Brian on Sep 21, 2010

As for the level-headed replies to my posts above, I will check out Casa Beach and/or Cabrillo Memorial Drive. Thanks for the tip.

By Brian on Sep 21, 2010

Well there you have it. If it is a tourist attraction then the law and public safety don’t matter; only what a bunch of ignorant cheapskates want. Of course the business owners need all the business they can get, now that La Jolla is a rundown stinky-ass dump of a place. I guess some people do like to shit where they eat, eat where the seals shit, and let other people shit where they eat.

http://savelajollaseals.org/

If the City doesn’t want the Children’s Pool anymore then perhaps they could at least remove the wall and restore the place to its natural condition. Then the seals can have their natural habitat back instead of living in a man-made shit-hole.

By Bob on Sep 21, 2010

Brian, if you won’t spend $100 to see the seals, then why would you spend any money at restaurants that smell like feces? Also, I notice you still haven’t answered me regarding any of the questions posted.

By cyberKICK on Sep 22, 2010

Bob, nice link… funny stuff.

By cyberKICK on Sep 22, 2010

So you’re saying that this is a good site to see seals. I don’t even have to leave my house.

http://savelajollaseals.org/

By Jeff on Sep 23, 2010

You called La Jolla a run-down stinky dump??!?! LOL, seriously?? This is how insane the anti-seal people are. La Jolla, the 5th most expensive place to live in the ENTIRE COUNTRY, is a dump! Didnt you all know? All those fancy boutiques and expensive homes overlooking the beautiful coastline are all “run-down”. Wow…

And if that WERE the case, then why would you even care if that beach was roped off to the public, seeing as how you have such a low opinion of the area. Why are you even concerned about such a “sh**-hole” Bob? You obviously have never been to La Jolla or you refuse to go now. I mean, no one in their right mind would go to such a crappy place on purpose, would they?

By Brian on Sep 23, 2010

And again, when you find that most people are laughing at you for being such a crybaby about something as needlessly contraversial as “seals on a beach”, then at what poing do you realize “wow, maybe I should just drop this” or “wow, I’ve gone off the deep end and am on a pro-seal website hating on complete strangers who simply want a reservation for seals”

Its great entertainment for me, lemme tell ya. I want this place reserved for seals. And that OFFENDS you. Wow, what a sensitive bltch you are. hahaha, now cry some more

By Brian on Sep 23, 2010

After being told that I didnt know that seals belong in the ocean and that La Jolla is a dump, I’ve realized that the anti-seal people on this board are simply retarded and beyond reasoning with. I will have a much better time now simply making fun of people like “Bob” and “Concernced La Jollan” who make it obvious that they must have been fucked in the ass by a couple of seals at some point in the past.

I mean, what happened? Did the seals refuse to call you the next day? Didnt give you a reach-around? Im just trying to figure out why exactly youre such a whiny bltch about this whole thing.

And yes, I am still laughing at your sensitive angry ass. Try not to cut yourself tonite, sweety.

By Brian on Sep 23, 2010

Brian, La Jolla properety values have been going down steadily for about 10 years.

As for the dump. Have you not seen the condemed lifeguard tower covered in pigeons? Have you not seen the porta-potties that have been there for years because La Jolla can’t affort to fix the bathrooms?

You talk about how you won’t spend any money to see the seals, so how much have you spent in La Jolla?

I’ve talked with business owneres in the area, and they would much rather have a beach crowd because they actually spend money. They come in with their families expecting to spend the day in the only beach that is safe for kids to swim in all of san diego. They are expecting to spend the whole day there, so they plan on eating there and checking out the shops. I have yet to see a seal-tourist who is expecting to spend the whole day watching seals deficate on a beach.

I must say though, it is very fastidious of you to not want to share the beach.

By cyberKICK on Sep 23, 2010

Heh, Heh, Brian is such a Tool.

By Bob on Sep 23, 2010

i don not agree with the bad words with children…that is so wrong…as for one person answer..i may live in kansas…but i am sitll a ca native…it is really to bad there is no middle ground…are the restroom that bad in La Jolla at the beach…you need to contact the local goverment on that…am still backing the seals..everyone needs to stop fighting and find a middle ground….i still care about san diego..that was my home…and maybe you need to look at the midwest on how man and wildlife get along..we owe this to the future of our children and their children on wildlife…one day our wildlife will not be there,,,,stop the fighting on figure out a happy middle..by bet is on the seals..if you don’t like what i say to bad…i love my wildlife…and will still back up the seals…i respect you all…but your butt is going to get kick where the seals are concern…happy in kansas with my wildlife..and no i would never pay $100.00 bucks to see the seals..that is wrong in my book…kimmie

By kimmie on Sep 24, 2010

Kimmie, someone paid for that beach already. Isn’t it wrong to take away somehting that was paid for?

By cyberKICK on Sep 24, 2010

Boo-fucking hoo, cyberkick. The wall was built EIGHTY years ago and since that time, the purpose of this small beach has evolved from children to seal attraction for tourists. Get the hell over it. Youre on a pro-seal website crying like a bitch over this.

But lemme tell ya…Oh my god, you are sooo right. Theres a condemned lifeguard tower somewhere on the beach. La Jolla is such a dump!!! hahaha. Housing prices are going down!!! Tourists are no longer flocking to La Jolla!!! The world is collapsing!!! And all because of these pro-seal anti-human vegan-conspiracists!!!!

This is absolutely hilarious to me. People so upset about something that matters so little, and exagerrating the issue so much.

I just hope you know that I am actually laughing out loud right now at your whiny angry ass. Go down a bottle of Arbor mist and cry into another box of tissues, you overly sensitive bitch.

By Brian on Sep 24, 2010

So Brian, when a contract between the State and an estate reaches a certain age, it is null and void?

By that logic many building and historic landmarks should be removed or condemed right?

I guess the White House shold be given to pigeons then.

Why is the magic year 80 though? Is 50 years long enough? What about 25?

How many years is “forever and always” as is in the contract?

By cyberKICK on Sep 24, 2010

Also Brian, why can’t you stare at the seals on seals rock? Why aren’t thoses seals good enough? What about the ones off Cabrillo Memorial road? Why do you insist you only want to look at them on the special beach for kids?

Are you afriad they will all drown?

By cyberKICK on Sep 24, 2010

I’m surprised that Dorota lets Miss Brain post this crap. It certainly doesn’t help her cause by showing what ignorant people they are.

By Balanced on Sep 24, 2010

Well, that happens when they don’t have ANY argument that makes sense. I think they all just have control issues. They don’t want people to use the beach. They don’t need a reason other than it is what they want.

It is clear the seals don’t care. They are just as happy in the water and on all the other beaches they frequent.

By cyberKICK on Sep 24, 2010

So Miss Brian, is that your final answer, get over it. Really. You do realize that Pro-Seal people are the ones fighting to close the beach and suing the City, while Pro-Beach people are happily using the beach; right alongside the seals. So let’s summarize; Pro-Beach people have no problem sharing the beach with everyone else, including the seals, while Pro-Seal people, acting selfish and narrow-minded, seem to have created this problem so that they can collect donations from foolish people who don’t know any better. What exactly are your schizophrenic posts supposed to be pointing out anyway? SB-428 guarantees beach and ocean access; seals or no seals. There has been no evolution at the Children’s Pool. Where have you been? Seals have always been there and will always be there. You will always be able to reliably go to the Children’s Pool and see seals. You are angry for nothing. Wake up and smell the seals. Direct your energy at learning and educate yourself, perhaps then you will be able to contribute something more intelligent to the real issue which is the City allowing this popular place to become an embarrassment. Many people are amazed that so much attention is given to such a populous animal. It’s like worshiping pigeons. Anyway, the next time you are down worshiping seals, go down and take a close-up photo of your favorite one and post it up on your living room wall.

By Bob on Sep 24, 2010

Bob, seals have not always been there. Before the beach was created by Ellen Browning Scripps, the area was under water. I’ve checked at the historical society. No beach, no sand. It was all under water. Unless you agree that the seals were sleeping under water there. It that is the case, then they can still sleep under the water and have no use for the beach.

By cyberKICK on Sep 25, 2010

Kimmie – you say we should find a “middle ground”. I agree 100%. That’s EXACTLY what people who want to use the beach want – we want to SHARE.

The seals DO NOT CARE if people are on the beach.

In fac, the ONLY people who care if people are on the beach are the antichildren, anihuman, antiaccess psychopaths like Dorota and Brian here who want to close the beach to humans, all so she can make a buck selling t-shirts and taking donations from tourists.

Look at the tax returns that the seal people are filing – they make over 300000 dollars a year.

Think about that. 300K a year. No wonder dorota wants to protect her litle buisness.

She does NOT really care about the seals. If she did, she would be concerened about the overpopulation, the diseases they are spreading, and the way they are overgrazing the nearby enviornment. SHe doesn’t care about ANY of that. She just wants her money.

By Concerned La Jollan on Sep 25, 2010

Oh, and Brian, snappy comebacks there…the reason we don’t want to give up our right to use a public beach is because “a seal fucked us in the ass”?

Nice. Did you think up that all by yourself captain cranium?

That ranks up there with “I know you are, but what am I”, “Nuh uh”, and “No, you are” as one of the most intelligent things ever said.

Since it’s blatently obvious you’re a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I’m being sarcastic – just so you know… mmmkay?

But, I’m actually glad you write he things you do. It provides great screenshots to bring to city council meetings as well as meetings with local officials to showcase they type of people who want to close the beach.

Between Dorota posting pictures of children and calling them “evil worshipers” and you, it’s pretty apparent the quality of human that wants to close the beach.

Contrast that with the people who want to sit at the adults table and SHARE the beach. they do beach cleanups, act civil, don’t lie to the police, and don’t harbor sick fantasies about human animal sexual encounters as you appear to.

Solid work Brian.

By Concerned La Jollan on Sep 25, 2010

oh my goodness there is a happy middle ground here..god bless the people who clean up after the seals…..kimmie

By kimmie on Sep 26, 2010

Kimmie, the only ones who clean up after the seals are the pro-beach use people. The “pro seal” activists have never cleaned up after the seals. They just let them roll around on their own feces all day. That is what the problem is. I have never even seen a pro-beach use person who want to harm seals. It is all just a ploy to make money.

By SealBurgers on Sep 26, 2010

I sign on this morning so as to amuse myself and I’m happy to say that I’m NOT DISAPPOINTED in the slightest. More whiny posts from anti-seal retards!!! WOOHOO!!! More Anger!!!! YAY!!!

How about this you nutjobs, if you dont like reading about me making fun of your retarded asses, then how about you stop signing onto a pro-seal website and whining constantly about such a non-issue as a small beach being reserved for seals????

But wait, that makes too much sense. “But Brian, you post curse words and sarcasm on a website, how immature”. You know what, youre right. How about I spend each and every Saturday, driving across the city, protesting a tiny beach with a picket sign, calling the entire beautiful city of La JOlla a dump, posting angrily on multiple websites, getting in the way of people who simply want to view the seals, starting arguments with pro-seal activists. How about I start doing all these things? Am I mature now?

Hahahaha, now respond back with some more whiny bullshit about how La Jolla is ruined and all of our rights are gone. Wahhh, the world is ending because of these seals on the beach!!! HAHAHAHHAA, fucking retards….

By Brian on Sep 27, 2010

P.S. Concerned La Jollan, it looks like there’s a broken-off seal dick lodged in your ass. Pull that shit out for God’s sake…geez

By Brian on Sep 27, 2010

Concerned La Jollan, let me copy and paste something you said to me earlier, when I was actually attempting to have an intelligent debate with you:

“Maybe you just are so insanely ignorant about the ocean that you don’t undersand that going in the ocean does NOT hurt seals”

So yeah, go ahead and act all high and mighty, preaching about how I’m so immature, etc etc. when you yourself slander ANYONE who has an opposing viewpoint to your own. And Please, and I mean, PLEASE, bring MY posts up to city council. If the best reasoning you have to kick the seals off the beach are some random guy’s offensive posts on a website, then that says A LOT about your position on this issue.

In fact, make sure you mention the following to them:

“I, Concerned La Jollan, am a whiny cumguzzling bitch. I post angry rants on websites during my free time. I look at La Jolla and think to myself: What a dump! I think that a small beach being roped off for an enormously popular tourist attraction is “an invasion of my rights”. I am beyond reason. If you disagree with me, I accuse you of not knowing that seals live in the ocean. Once you make fun of how completely retarded I am, I suddenly pretend to be mature and say things like “your posts are quite indicative of the lowlife that wants to close this beach”. And yes, I was raped by a seal, which is the only real reason anyone could be as hellbent as I am to get rid of them. Please, lock me away in prison so that the next rapists I meet will at least be human. Thank you and have a great day”

By Brian on Sep 27, 2010

Wow, this guy Brian is delusional. Who has ever protested against the seals? I go down there when the beach is full of people and I see lots of seals. When the seals are not on the beach, they are on Seal Rock. I do however see protests against the harassment of people. I also see why the residents don’t want low-life trash like Brian coming into their town wanting everything for free. It looks like Brian is just another activist creating a problem where none exists. He seems to get his kicks from creating conflict between people who have no conflict. I find Brian somewhat entertaining, but we shouldn’t really make fun of the mentally challenged. Who wouldn’t oppose his viewpoint of closing down a beach that was built specifically for children to play in the ocean and turn it into a litter box? And his only argument is “I want to reliably see seals for free”???? What???? Even I can see that the beach should remain open for people as the Law states and that the seals will continue to be there for everyone to see and enjoy.

By Jeff on Sep 27, 2010

Brian, you’re pretty funny.

It’s actually a good thing that you are the typical “internet tough guy” who types all sorts of stuff on the web but is too much of a cowardly girl to actually do anything about it or we’d have even more assults on innocent beach goers from sick people like you who harbor seal-(get the pun)-human sexual fantasies.

I mean, you must, because you keep bringing that up. Kinda like closet gays who keep talking about gay sex(now that I think about it, you talk about gay stuff among humans a LOT too.. HMMMMMMM), you just can’t seem to get the whole seal-human sex thing out of your mind.

Anyways, as I said, I’m glad you are oo much of a cowardly little child to actually do anything other than cry on the internet because when supposedly grown men like attack women and children on the beach, it’s really pretty lame.

Stay cowardly there brian.

By Concerned La Jollan on Sep 27, 2010

awww Concerned La Jollan, it sounds like I hit a sore spot with you, huh? Poor thing…hahaha… want some tissues???

And again, you CHOOSE to go on a pro-seal website and read what I type. If you dont like it, then dont come on here. And better yet, how about you simply drop this complete non-issue of roping off a small beach for seals.

Oh, but wait, thats a violation of your rights and the beginning of the end of AMERICA!!! Anyone in their right mind should be up in arms as much as you!!! These tourist-money-producing seals are as much a threat to us as Al Quaeda!!! And when I defend them being there, I prove myself to be an anti-human coward! hahahhaha, go listen to some more talk radio, you extremist retard

By Brian on Sep 27, 2010

Um, Brian, why do the seals need the beach rather then the reserve just 100m away? There are always seals there. Why do you need them on this one beach, when they are on so many others, daily?

As for tourism, there was much more of that when the place was clean. It used to be that you had to hunt for parking for hours, and now, easy 10 minutes.

If you drive all the men out of a room, and then ask the remaining people if the toilet seat should be left up of down, you will hear “down” of course. Does that mean most people care it is left down? No, only the small sample letf.

By cyberKICK on Sep 27, 2010

So Bri, what you are saying is that you don’t want to hear from those who have actualy logical arguments. If someone is saying something you don’t like, don’t post it. Wow, what a great rgument.

So because I think the beach should be cleaned I am wrong for wanting that? Nobody has said to remove the friggen seals. Just clean up their mess. If you don’t want to clean up their mess, then shoo them away as best you can. They are classified as nuisance animals and are hard to get rid of. They won’t leave just because we clean up after them. Good grief.

By cyberKICK on Sep 27, 2010

I only see a couple of videos of the seals at Casa Beach here. They need more.

http://savelajollaseals.org/

By Jeff on Sep 27, 2010

why can’t everyone get along..the dick up the behind was rude….we all are not on the same page and that is okay..but do we need to use foul messages…no state what you think and leave at that..which out getting ugly..go seals….i am bringing my shovel..to pick up poo when i come visit…maybe then a large one..where do i put the poo at in the trash can.? go seals..kimmie

By kimmie on Sep 28, 2010

Wow Kimmie, that would make you the very first seal activist to actually clean up for the seals. Smells very strong though, heavy ammonia smell. I’ve been picking up after the seals every couple of weeks and it is hard to get anywhere because the screaming seal people get very angry when you clean the beach. I think they want it as dirty as possible to keep the people away.

By cyberKICK on Sep 28, 2010

Why do the seals need this “small” beach? Actually it is one of the largest beaches in the area… but moving on… Why not just give the beach back to the children is was designed for?

By SealBurgers on Sep 28, 2010

That’s disgusting. Why leave the animals to roll around in their own filth when it is so easy to clean when the seals are out in the ocean getting food. How can these people be called pro-seal? They don’t seem to care one bit about the seals, only about themselves and what they want. A true pro-seal person should be concerned for the seals’ health and living conditions and not just about where best to see these magnificent creatures. I applaud you Kimmie for showing the thoughtfulness of a true intelligent human being and not just thinking about yourself or how you can manipulate the seals for your own self gratification or that of the tourists.

By Jeff on Sep 28, 2010

cyberkick, Concerned La Jollan, others…lets see if youll answer these following simple yes or no questions SERIOUSLY…

1. If someone is in favor of keeping the seals on that beach, then are they automatically “anti-human”? Are they supporting a “vegan conspiracy”?
2. Do you honestly look at La Jolla and see “a dump”?
3. Suppose you are right and the seals SHOULD go, then should the city still spend a MILLION dollars to do this, during the Great Recession?
4. Do you honestly think that this beach being roped off for seals is an “invasion of your rights”?
4. Sorry, this isnt a yes or no question but I still havent gotten an answer to the following question: With all the problems in this world, why are you so upset about THIS?? What about this issue fires you up so much? I seriously didnt even believe it when I first heard that the seals being there was even contraversial. I was pretty shocked to see people so overly opinionated about this.

I apologize for being so crude in the past, pretty much just amusing myself, but when I’m told that I’m an anti-human pro-vegan crazy person because I like seeing the beach populated with seals (like so many other thousands of people), then yeah, I feel as though I’m talking to a nutcase and I start making fun of them. I guess we all have weaknesses

By Brian on Sep 28, 2010

Okay Brian, again I will answer all of these:

1) The beach access people are fine with sharing, the seal people do not want to share, they want the beach entirely for themselves. The organization that takes money at the top of the stairs also does vegan causes…

2) I remember when La Jolla was nice, now there is a condemed Lifeguard headquarters, and I talked with the lifeguards who say that the bathrooms have been closed for years because there is a serious risk of it collapsing at any time. The wall is all cracked, the railings rusty, and the overall area is in great dis-repair, so yea, it is turning in to a dump. That is why real estate has declined in value consistantly for well over 10 years.

3) NOT putting up a rope won’t cost millions of dollars, but the litigation of putting up a rope on a development probably will. It would be much cheaper to not put up a rope. The rope is a direct violation of the California Coastal Act.

4) The violation of the california coastal act is a violation of my rights granted by the act. Furthermore, it is the only beach in all of san diego that is safe for small children. That is why it was built. All the other beaches in the area have strong rip tides. The cove is illegal to launch for if you want to go spear fishing because it is a reserve (and yes you can see seals there too). The other beaches in the area are far too dangerous to launch from. By closing this beach you are effectivly removing diving from san diego. No more. Great for tourism.

4) What are you talking about? The beach use people are fine with the seals, it is the “pro seal” people who get upset and throw rocks, vandalize care and scream at people. They are the ones who get upset if you so much as play frisbee on the beach. Why not tell them to chill?

As for your attitude, well that goes with education. Those who are less educated like to be loudly wrong.

By cyberKICK on Sep 28, 2010

I will offer my brief opinions:
1. Beach-goers all want the seals to stay and they aren’t anti-human so neither are you unless you want to keep people off the beach.
2. I’m referring to the condemned lifeguard tower, closed bathrooms, and seal litter box smell. Other areas are probably normal for a City this old.
3. People who want to use the beach only want the intimidation, harassment, vandalism, and filth to go away, not the seals. Beach-goers even volunteer to clean the beach for FREE; Music to your ears huh.
4. Again, the issue is not about the seals. Beach-goers are upset with this attempt to take what has been a public park, the only one of its kind for miles if not all of California, for so many years because if we allow this small matter to go unchallenged then only larger takings will follow. It is the American Way to stand up for our rights. For example, the Law SB-428 and the CA Coastal Act. Do you always lie down and let people walk all over you? The CA Coastal Act specifies that coastal water has to be healthy for human contact. Too many seals makes the water unhealthy. Closing the beach forces people to use unsafe ocean access points.

Other suggestion:
Take a trip to Carpinteria and see what a real population of seals look like in their natural habitat.

By Bob on Sep 29, 2010

A wise man once said:

“History affords us many instances of the ruin of states…the ordaining of laws in favor of one part of the nation to the prejudice and oppression of another, is certainly the most erroneous and mistaken policy…An equal dispensation of protection, rights, privileges, and advantages, is what every part is entitled to, and ought to enjoy…”

“Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature.”

“God grant that not only the love of liberty but a thorough knowledge of the rights of man may pervade all the nations of the earth, so that a philosopher may set his foot anywhere on its surface and say: This is my country.”

By Jeff on Sep 29, 2010

Brian, I was thinking about how you said “when I’m told that I’m an anti-human pro-vegan crazy person because I like seeing the beach populated with seals (like so many other thousands of people), then yeah, I feel as though I’m talking to a nutcase and I start making fun of them.”

What I realized is that is exactly what happens to the innocent beach users. Why does using a gifted beach make you a “seal hater” (or any of the other lovely titles bestowed by these activists)?

By cyberKICK on Sep 29, 2010

oh my…am taking two shovels…one for the seals poo..and the other one for BS….there is a happy middle here somewhere i hope…what a alot of crap….i will bring 3 shovels…more for the human poo….kimmie..will be off line the next 10 days my baby is getting married…that is good news..so i will let you fight it out without me…go seals….kimmie

By kimmie on Sep 30, 2010

Saw the new YouTube video from Andrea Hahn.
How can anyone say that people are scaring away the seals? Look at all of the seals from one end of the beach to the other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2RTFN5mkss

By Jeff on Sep 30, 2010

Again, you are actually saying that La JOlla is on the decline and that this beach is the only beach where children can play at. So I guess when I see mega-mansions for sale in La JOlla, I’m only hallucinating. When I see kids playing at beaches all up and down the coast, it must be my imagination. Again, Cyberkick, you can act all super high and mighty on here, but theres no doubt that youre simply insane.

And I love how I was away from this site for a few days (I simply dont give a shit about right wing nutjobs, other than making fun of their whiny asses) and all the above-mentioned nutjobs couldnt stop making posts about me.

Tell me Cyberkick, how many times a day did you check out this website, awaiting my next post?? haha, its fucking sad…and hilarious

Youre now as obsessed with this blog as much as you are about this NON-ISSUE

Really now, the idea that La Jolla is run-down because of a lifeguard tower (due to broad cuts in the California budget) and a somewhat rusty wall…seriously, thats the best you got???!?!?!

Dude, just stop making some insane posts before you embarass yourself further

But you and I know that you cant resist. Please do me a favor. Attack my maturity some more. Call me an idiot. Tell me that I dont know that seals live in the ocean and keep trying to persuade me that the most expensive place in San Diego is a dump still. Come on Cyberkick, you know you cant NOT keep dragging this out…

hahahaha, as you type your response, keep in mind, youre doing exactly as Ive told you to do…what a fucking tool hahaha

By Brian on Sep 30, 2010

Any newcomers to this blog, you need to know a couple things about the anti-seal nutjobs who post on here:

1. According to them, La Jolla is a dumpy piece of shit place to live now, because of the seals.
2. If you want to keep the seals on the beach, you must be either uneducated or anti-human, or both
3. This is the only beach in all of san diego where seals can play…all those other dozens of beaches where kids play…theyre make-belief

In other words, they are simply fucking insane. Do not bother trying to reason with them. Either take the high road and dont even bother talking to them. Or be like me and enrage them further for your own personal amusement. For example, when cyberkick isnt licking his sister’s tit, he’s getting fucked in the ass by one of the seals, hence his strong position. Now, what I just typed is incredibly juvenile and stupid. But is it any more stupid than actually trying to tell another human being that no other beaches in San Diego are swim-able by kids. If that were true, then no kids would have swam in San Diego waters since at least 1994, when the rope went up.

Seriously, cyberkick, you ACTUALLY said that. No other beach in San Diego is swimable for kids. HAHAHAHHAHAHA. Youre either being paid and/or fucked in the ass by some anti-seal organization. OR you are so fucking stupid that you actually believe the bullshit you are saying..

hahhahaa…kids cant swim at any other beach in san diego…I cant even fuck type that sentence without laughing my ass off…hahaha…thank you cyberkick, for letting us all know simply how delusional all the anti-seal people are…

let me try this one last time….”this is the only beach where kids can swim in san diego” hahahahhaa…sorry, still couldnt type that without laughing at your ass in the middle…ill try harder next time…

Now cyberkick, make sure you check this website 34 times a day once you reply, just to see what I say next…hows it feel to be my bitch?

By Brian on Sep 30, 2010

“This is the only beach safe for kids to swim in all of San Diego”…hahahahah…dammit…still cant do it…

By Brian on Sep 30, 2010

“This is the only beach in San Diego where kids can play”…ahem…um… ehem… baahahhahahahaha!!!

SHIT!!

By Brian on Sep 30, 2010

Sorry you’re getting so upset Brian. Not. You should relax and have a barbeque down at the Children’s Pool while the seals are happily napping on the beach. Too bad you can’t throw one of those seals on the Barbie. You can worship them for their taste as well as their looks.

Quite frankly, I’m bored of the same regurgitated crap from everyone. This topic has been beat like a baby seal. And the beach will still be open and people and seals will still be using it.

But that is a good YouTube video that Jeff posted from Andrea. We haven’t seen much from her lately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2RTFN5mkss

Hey Brian, did you get a good look at the seals in the video? Your box of tissues must have come in handy.

By Bob on Sep 30, 2010

Briam, I have to agree with Bob. You don’t properly quote. You cut off the part where I said “safely”. There has never been a single child lost at the children’s pool. They have the headquarters there, and the clinic. The other beaches have had children drown and severly injured. Of course you’ll probably mis-quote this too. I suppose you are just another control freak who doesn’t want people to enjoy themselves. Why don’t you go somewhere where everybody will do your bdding…

By SealBurgers on Oct 1, 2010

Briam, I have to agree with Bob. You don’t properly quote. You cut off the part where I said “safely”. There has never been a single child lost at the children’s pool. They have the headquarters there, and the clinic. The other beaches have had children drown and severly injured. Of course you’ll probably mis-quote this too. I suppose you are just another control freak who doesn’t want people to enjoy themselves. Why don’t you go somewhere where everybody will do your bdding…

By cyberKICK on Oct 1, 2010

I want to thank Cyberkick so much for demonstrating how completely insane the anti-seal people are. Calling La Jolla “run-down” or “a dump” is insane. Saying that this one beach is the only safe beach in San Diego for kids is laugh-out-loud insane.

Having said that, Cyberkick, please pick one of the following options that best describes you:

1. You’ve never been to La Jolla and are simply ignorant. I mean, how else could you call the place a dump.

2. You are purposely lying to advance your agenda. I mean, who cares about facts (dozens of family beaches in San Diego, La Jolla is the 5th most expensive place to live in the USA)when you can simply say a bunch of bullshit, hoping that people who dont know any better believe you.

3. You are truly insane. You somehow can manage to type words on a computer in between your shouting matches with inanimate objects, such as potted plants. You yell at kids to get off your lawn, even though you dont have a lawn, and the kids are actually seals.

Which one is it, Cyberkick? I wish another person who agrees with you that the seals should be removed would at least concede the FACTS that La Jolla is a beautiful place and there are SAFE BEACHES EVERYWHERE IN SAN DIEGO.

By Brian on Oct 1, 2010

Again, thank you Bob and Cyberkick, from the bottom of my heart. Calling La Jolla a dump and saying that no beaches are safe for kids in all of San Diego besides this one…

By actually saying these things, youve done more to help the cause of this website than I could ever HOPE to do. Thank you so much

By Brian on Oct 1, 2010

Show me 1 beach that has no riptides, undertows or south current. There is none. Ask the lifeguards. Oh wait. You don’t like facts. That is why this beach was built in the first place. Do some reading, get some facts.

I am at that beach all the time, and I remember when they actually maintained the beaches here.

According to what source is it the 5th most expensive place? I’d like to verify that. I can think of several places more expensive, Beverly Hills, Malibu, Rancho Santa Fe, some ares in Chicago, San Francisco, Miami, and I am sure if I thought about it I could link of more. So what source?

By cyberKICK on Oct 1, 2010

Wow, for someone who doesn’t care about posting to this site, Brian sure was quick to respond. Bland post though, good luck with that Schizophrenia. No wonder you want people off the beach so badly. You need a place to go and be alone with yourself and you have found seals to be the perfect companions. Oh they’re so cute and cuddly wuddly. Don’t forget your box of tissues.
I knew an old lady who swallowed a fly
But I don’t know why she swallowed the fly
Perhaps she’ll die
I knew an old lady who swallowed a spider
That wiggled and jiggled and tickled inside her
She swallowed a spider to catch the Fly
But I don’t know why she swallowed the fly
Perhaps she’ll die
I knew an old lady who swallowed a Bird
How absurd, to swallow a bird
She swallowed a bird to catch the spider
That wiggled and jiggled and tickled inside her
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly
But I don’t know why she swallowed the fly
Perhaps she’ll die
I knew an old lady who swallowed a cat
Imagine that, she swallowed a cat
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird, etc…
I knew an old lady who swallowed a dog
What a hog, to swallow a dog
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat, etc…
I knew an old lady who swallowed a goat
She opened her throat and swallowed the goat
She swallowed the goat to catch the dog, etc…
I knew an old lady who swallowed a cow
I don’t know how she swallowed the cow
She swallowed the cow to catch the goat, etc…
I knew an old lady who swallowed a horse
She dead of course!

By Jeff on Oct 1, 2010

Jeff, maybe Brian can’t afford to see seals at sea world becuase schizophrenia makes it difficult to hold down a job. Disability doesn’t really pay well. Also, at Sea World you can’t pet the seals like you can at this beach. Of course if he only wants to look at them, he can seem them at any beach. He can also see sand crabs and seagulls. If he really wants to get adventureous he could go to the city and see rats and pigeons.

By cyberKICK on Oct 1, 2010

Cyberkick believes that no other beaches in San Diego are good for children to swim.

Cyberkick also calls La Jolla a dump.

Am I’m the crazy one here? hahahahhahahaha!!!

Thank you yet again, Cyberkick, nonstop entertainment

By Brian on Oct 1, 2010

Oh my god, I just saw a kid playing on Coronado Beach in the water!!! Someone call the police!!! His parents are committing child abuse by letting him swim in such a horrible place!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Brian on Oct 1, 2010

Lobster season starts tonight at midnight and you know what that means. Lobster hunters are going to use the Children’s Pool to enter the Ocean and probably scare away all of the seals. I hope that Dorota and Andrea will be there to protect the seals. What will Brian do if all of the seals are scred away. Even I know that they will just come back some other time. Poor Brian doesn’t seem to have figured that out yet.

By Jeff on Oct 1, 2010

Jeff, I’m surprised you responded just then. Arent you late for your circle-jerk with cyberkick??

Dude, dont be late!! hahahahaha

Now respond back with some more whiny bullshit LOL!!

Just keep in mind everyone, La Jolla is a dump and there are no other beaches in San Diego that are safe for children. LOL! And Bush flew the airplane into the WTC. And Obama is part of Al Quaeda.

What other bullshit do you guys believe? Let me guess, the earth is 6000 years old too, huh?? LOLOLOL!!!

By Brian on Oct 1, 2010

Youre right, Brian. I guzzle cum. In fact, I have a dick in my ass right now. A SEAL’s DICK!!!

Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to go cry some more into a box of tissues like the little bitch that I am.

By cyberKICK on Oct 1, 2010

Lobster season starts tonight at midnight and you know what that means. Lobster hunters are going to use the Children’s Pool to enter the Ocean and probably scare away all of the seals. I hope that Dorota and Andrea will be there to protect the seals. What will Brian do if all of the seals are scred away. Even I know that they will just come back some other time. Poor Brian doesn’t seem to have figured that out yet.

By SealLover69 on Oct 1, 2010

Posting on this web site is loads of fun. Look how excited Brian is in anticipation of the next post. I’m surprised more people haven’t joined in. This web site is like one of Gods gifts to comedians. You know, like George W. Bush was. Thanks Brian, for ending my day with a laugh.

By Jeff on Oct 1, 2010

Yep Jeff, now if we can only get the Seal Activists to stop whining about us using our beach…

By cyberKICK on Oct 1, 2010

saw the you tube deal..all the man did was take down the sign and the flags…cyberkick…you are a person…the thing up the behind is not like you…you are letting these people get to you…play cool…am still for the seals…but am not going to use dirty words….you all need to play nice in the sandbox…post what you want..but don’t use dirty words….gusse i have been in ks to long…will be in calif..in at least 6 months…this way i can see for myself what the heck is going on…who knows maybe i will change my mind…am bringing my shovels…anyone care to help me…one more question once i shovel the poo where do i put it?kimmie..cyberkick have a great weekend…

By kimmie on Oct 2, 2010

Kimmie, I didn’t post that. Somebody else just used the same nome… You know from my history that I don’t resort to profanities.

By cyberKICK on Oct 2, 2010

Youre right, Brian. I guzzle cum. In fact, I have a dick in my ass right now. A SEAL’s DICK!!!

Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to go cry some more into a box of tissues like the little bitch that I am.

By Brian on Oct 2, 2010

Ha Ha, you thought it was Cyber-buttFuck-kick but it was just me Brian the comedian. I know you like it.

By Brian on Oct 2, 2010

Hey that wasn’t me. you Asshole. Someone is using my name.

By Brian on Oct 2, 2010

Well Brian,
If at first you don’t succeed, redefine success.
But remember:
Jesus loves you! It’s everybody else that thinks you’re an ass.

By Bob on Oct 2, 2010

Kimmie, glad to hear you want to help clean the beach.

The trash cans on the beach level have been removed, so you will need to haul it up the stairs to a can. Problem is that the cans are usually full.

If you let me know when you plan on coming to the beach, I can schedule a beach cleanup where the city will supply us with some bags, and haul it away when we are done. There are always a dozen or two beach-goers ready to help with a cleanup.

By cyberKICK on Oct 2, 2010

cyberkick…thank you..can you put me up for a couple of nights when i come out there with my shovels…..mr. bob sir you don’t need to be a butt and call people names…shame on you we are all in this ….you need to back off on play nice…we may not see eye to eye on this but there is no need to use dirty words toward people..cyberkick and i are cool..i respect her like she respect me..there is a happpy middle here…I think you are the person who logged on under 2 people names…you call youself a church person…not where i am from..you are a horses rear end..shame on you ..you are a jerk..kimmie

By kimmie on Oct 3, 2010

Saturday We went to the beach for a short time (maybe 1.5 hours) and when we arrived there were a few seals on the rocks. A few people went in for the photo op, but yellers from the tables stopped that. The tide was coming in, and shortly the seals decided to leave (probably from the tide coming in and the sun beating down… very hot and humid). I guess sitting on rocks in a fur coat in the sun isn’t all that relaxing. I did notice that the seals decided to stay a while and play with the kids. Following them around in the pool and interacting. How can anyone say that beachgoers don’t like seals? They are the only ones interacting with them. If the seals didn’t want to interact they could simply swim away when they go in the water. They aren’t territorial animals. In fact, the colony is over 500 strong,and different seals use each beach each day. They just cruise up and down the coast looking for a “parking space”. Most go to secluded beaches (blacks, and the beaches north of scripps pier). They natural behavior is not to haul out behind an 8ft thick man made wall, but rather to haul out on to rocks. On rocks if land predators approach they can get in the water much more quickly. Their natural preditators include bears, coyotes, wolves, as well as sharks and orcas.

By cyberKICK on Oct 3, 2010

Kimmie, I am glad that you noticed. I will return to a more respectable line of posting. Kimmie, I wish you the best and hope your baby has a beautiful wedding.

Here is another interesting video by a concerned citizen.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Bcikasa#p/u/3/ncglaXYE9P4

By Bob on Oct 3, 2010

My posts take a long time to post.

By Balanced on Oct 3, 2010

Balanced, maybe you should say more…

By cyberKICK on Oct 3, 2010

My other post is waiting to be approved.

By Balanced on Oct 4, 2010

Hmm, I don’t know whether or not I approve until I read it.

It’s raining today, I hope the seals are alright. I know they don’t like the water and can easily drown.

By SealLover69 on Oct 4, 2010

I think La Jolla is a dump.

Children cannot play safely at any beach in all of San Diego except for this beach.

Because I claim these two things, I am a completely insane retard.

By cyberKICK on Oct 5, 2010

Brian, I notice you don’t have any evidence of any of the things you claim. You just seem to like to mis-quote people. What I said was that it is the safest beach, and was paid for with a specific purpose. It also happens to have the very best safety record in San Diego. You keep wildlife out of developments. You don’t have bears or coyotes running around downtown do you?

If you come out to your car and see it is covered with pigeons, do you walk home or simply shoo them away.

Oh wait, you don’t have a job and can’t support even the small fee to see seals. You can’t even afford to drive the 10 miles to see the other colony.

Fun fact: seals like to live near sewer treatment plants. They have to design special stuff to keep the seal out! Haha. It like you just love to watch pigs!

By cyberKICK on Oct 5, 2010

I did mention that it is the only beach without current (no rip tides, no under tows, no south current). It was specifically designed to be that way. There are also far fewe waves, and if some of the sand buildup was removed there would be absolutely no waves.

Why don’t you copy and paste exact quotes of what I said, but include the whole sentence instead of taking parts and trying to take the words out of context.

By cyberKICK on Oct 5, 2010

Why can’t we just BBQ some seals and solve the whole problem?

By SealBurgers on Oct 5, 2010

Gee, I wonder which post is from Brian and which post is from cyberKICK? Brian is so excited in anticipation of the next post that he posts under other people’s names. Oh wait, I’m not Jeff, who am I. Keepin’ the fun alive.

By Jeff on Oct 5, 2010

Yes, Cyberkick, whatever makes you feel better, buddy. I dont have a job, am uneducated, etc. etc. I’m probably gay too, who knows, etc.

Youre actually still claiming that this is the only safe beach in all of San Diego for kids and that La Jolla is a dump. Thats all I have to say. hahaha

If it offends you that I simply restate your own statements back to you, then maybe you should re-think said statements. Or hell, stop hanging out on a website that you disagree with seeing as how you hate to be disagreed with so much!!!

SIGH!!! WHAT AN IDEA!!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!

But cyberKICK, aka Complete dumbass, I just got to tell you one thing. I hope youre there at La Jolla when they inevitably rope off that beach again. I want that beach reserved for seals, but what I want even more is to simply laugh at your sensitive ass when you get even more butt-hurt than you already are.

Again, thank you CyberKick, I love laughing at crybabies

By cyberKICK on Oct 5, 2010

I have a great idea.

I’m going to go on a message board on a website that I disagree with, and then complain non-stop about people disagreeing with me on there.

cyberkick, you are such a dumbass

but please dont stop, Im not done laughing at you

By Brian on Oct 5, 2010

I can’t wait for the rope to go up either so I can Legally step over it and/or go under it and keep using the beach as if it wasn’t even there. The Children’s Pool is open to seals and the public and it always will be. Anyone who reads this website will find out for themselves what is true. That is the point of my post. To have people seek out the truth. What rational person would believe anyone who acts like such a child? The truth is on this website but it is amongst many lies.

By Balanced on Oct 5, 2010

Hey Balanced, are you going to go to the next beach cleanup with the rest of us seal lovers. They really should have a clean place to rest. And the CA Coastal Act states that water quality at developments like the Children’s Pool shall be maintained for the protection of human health and optimum populations of all species of marine organisms. The City just needs a little help.
See sections 30230 and 30231. Who else has some factual documentation to share?

By Bob on Oct 6, 2010

I actually have heard some pretty respectable arguments on this page for kicking the seals off the beach, even if I totally disagree, because like it or not, its a beloved tourist attraction that brings lots of money and tourism to La Jolla. Its the only reason I visit and spend my money there, which is why I post on here.

Sadly however, some others (cough cough cyberkick) have to resort to LYING in order to kick the seals off the beach. As long as you keep saying that “this is the only beach in all of San Diego that kids can safely play at” AND that “La Jolla is now a dump” because of the seals…then you make all people on your side look like wacko extremists.

But rather than soaking in the point I just made above, cyberkick, resort to questioning my intelligence some more or accuse me of not knowing that seals live in the ocean. Come on sweety, get that anger out

By Brian on Oct 6, 2010

I hope that at the next beach cleanup there are lots of seals. I heard that if you swim in the Children’s Pool that the seals swim up to you and lick your feet. I would try it but the water is too cold for me. I should get a wetsuit so I can go swim with the seals. That sounds like fun.

By Jeff on Oct 6, 2010

Bob, I will certainly try to be there at the next Children’s Pool Beach cleanup. There most likely will be plenty of seals there to see since it appears that many seals enjoy the company of humans.

By Balanced on Oct 6, 2010

hello cyberkick..kimmie here have a couple of qusetions…i know you and i don’t see eye to eye on this…at least i will be out at the end of the year to clean up seal poo..i have a place to stay..but at least we respect each other…thank you on my son..2 days to go..my question is to brian…you posted you had sex with a seal…care to explain that one ..it was a older post…and one more question brain…if you want to help save the seals..than you need to be out there with me cleaning up seal poo…what is your response brian…cyberkick will work with me on this one..cleaning up seal poo…there is no need for this dirty words on this….it will all work it self on the end..we need all to work together on this..have a great week..am off to my son’s wedding..brian..i think you have some mental issue going on..sorry but that is what i think..no one agrees on everything..i am a RN..kimmie.

By kimmie on Oct 6, 2010

Kimmie, Im on your side and I agree with everything you’ve said.

What bothers me is that when i was trying to have an actual discussion about this with the extremists such as cyberKICK on this site, I was immediately told that I must be too stupid to realize that seals live in the ocean, etc etc. There simply is no reasoning with these people. If you disagree with them, then you are stupid. Not just me, but you too Kimmie.

You have to remember, according to Bob, cyberKICK, and Concerned La Jollan: La Jolla is a dump and there is no other safe beach in all of San Diego for kids to safely swim at.

These are the people youre trying to have a civilized and productive conversation with. Seriously, you cant expect to get anywhere with someone who thinks that one of the most gorgeous towns IN THE WORLD is “a dump” and that a city with literally DOZENS of safe beaches for families only has this ONE beach to offer kids.

Its an exercise in futility. Thats why I simply laugh at them instead. I can only wonder what other crazy things they think as well (Are they also Truthers? Birthers? Do they think the Earth is 6000 years old?)

By Brian on Oct 7, 2010

Dozens? Really? List them.

By SealBurgers on Oct 7, 2010

I was really about to start listing them, but let me get this straight…YOU STILL INSIST THAT THIS IS THE ONLY BEACH IN SAN DIEGO WHERE KIDS CAN PLAY?!?!?!?!

hahahaha what a dumbass

Thanks dude, please respond back with something else just as retarded, so I can continue laughing at your whiny ass.

WAH WAH WAH!!! This small beach is reserved for seals. Let me cry like a bltch about it!

By Brian on Oct 7, 2010

P.S. Heres a QUICK list of family beaches in San Diego. Please tell me how ANY of these are unsafe for kids, so you and I both can drive there and yell at all the families to go away because they are so “unsafe”
La Jolla, the beach just North of the seal beach
La Jolla, the beach just SOUTH of the seal beach
Imperial Beach
Silver Strand
Coronado Beach
Ocean Beach
Mission Beach
Mission Bay
Pacific Beach
Windansea
Torrey Pines State Beach
Del Mar
Del Mar Beach Trail
Dog Beach
Solana Beach
Cardiff
Swami’s
Encinitas
Leucadia
Carlsbad North Beach
Carlsbad South Beach
Oceanside
Moonlight Beach
San Onofre

This is besides the whole fact that the seal beach ISNT EVEN SAFE FOR KIDS. You really want your kid to swim in a small area with so many sharp rocks??? SeriouslY??? Cyberkick, please dont disappoint me. Insist that its safer than all of the beaches above and that none of the beaches above are safe at all for kids. Please tell me that.

By Brian on Oct 7, 2010

PPS: By the way, I’m still laughing at you hahahaha!!!

By Brian on Oct 7, 2010

I now understand, cyberKICK.

By Brian on Oct 7, 2010

cyberkick have a great weekend..i am off to my son wedding…god help me…brian..i will get back to you later next week..my baby is getting married….so i have 4 days off..and a two hour car drive..am tired of BS………..kimmie

By kimmie on Oct 8, 2010

Haha Brian, you think all those are in the same area. and they aren’t even in the same zip code!!

So I’m supposed to drive from La Jolla to San Onofre to use the beach? Does that beach even have life-guards?

By SealBurgers on Oct 8, 2010

I have to agree with SealBurgers here. Those are not in the area. Besides that, all the beach you listed either have n lifeguards, or have very strong currents. The “CHILDREN’s POOL” was specifically designed to not have currents. The beach you mentioned have strong currents, waves, sharp rocks and no lifeguards. Yea sounds much safer than a beach with a lifegard tower, Lifeguard clinic, and no currents.

You should possible do a tad of research. Come up with sources rather than just BS.

I have to agree with Kimmie and SealBurgers on this one!

Kimmie, have a great time! I look forward to a beach cleanup when you come to down. Make sure you let me know ahead of time about dates so I can organize it.

By cyberKICK on Oct 8, 2010

San Onofre? Isn’t that a Nude Beach. I might as well go to Blacks Beach. Would you really take your kids there?

By Jeff on Oct 8, 2010

Cyberkick, let me copy and paste something you posted last week or so:

“4) The violation of the california coastal act is a violation of my rights granted by the act. Furthermore, it is the only beach in all of san diego that is safe for small children.”

What does that last line say? You claim(ed) that this is “the only beach in all of san diego that is safe for small children” You didnt say “in the area”. You said “in all of San Diego”.

I listed about 20 beaches in San Diego where the families would disagree with you. Now its sad that Im even resorting to debating this bullshit with you. Why cant I just continue laughing at a grown man who whines constantly like a middle-aged bitch. Oh wait, I can.

HAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!

By Brian on Oct 8, 2010

Again, not to mention that you want your kids swimming at a beach with sharp rocks and seal crap. The idea that you actually keep making this argument is just amusing as hell. Please, dont stop.

By Brian on Oct 8, 2010

So, according to you, it is better to go to a nude beach 40+ miles away, then use the beach specifically built for small children right here? Um, no.

Of the beaches you listed, ALL have strong currents, and many have SHARP ROCKS, and some are even nude beaches… Great choices.

By cyberKICK on Oct 8, 2010

LOL!!!

Youre actually sticking to the whole “this is the only beach in all of San Diego thats safe for kids”. At what point does this guy admit that he’s exagerrating?? I guess never. Winning the argument is more important than being right, I guess.

And I googled “cyberkick” because I had the funny feeling that this isnt the only website that youve been crying like a little bitch on…and guess what, I WASNT DISAPPOINTED!!!

You might be the whiniest human being ever. Congratulations.

Now please, respond back with how Coronado, Mission Bay, and Carlsbad State Beach are all “unsafe for kids” hahahaa!!! Please dont disappoint me, sweety.

By Brian on Oct 8, 2010

Wait, so to you, it is better for small children of La Jolla to have to travel 50+ miles to use a nude beach with surfing, no toilets, and strong rip currents. Great idea there Brian. Maybe you should walk 50 ft and watch the seals on the rocks… seems easier to me. Good greif, seals are everywhere. You don’t have to look far to find them. There are 1200 seals in just the 15 or so miles right here. You can see them on the beaches all along the bluffs near scripps, you can see them near the lighthouse off of Cabrillo Memorial Rd, and you can see them at sea world. Why waste the money to illegally rope off a public state beach? They could just do nothing and allow people to use the beach as it was designed. Oh wait, then you couldn’t whine about how you can’t afford to see seals anywhere else.

By cyberKICK on Oct 8, 2010

Brian, you clearly don’t have kids if you think it is a good idea to drive an hour each way to use a beach rather than the one right here.

By cyberKICK on Oct 8, 2010

cyberKICK, why are you being so mean to me? I love seals and think they are far more important that people. I was a seal in a formal life and I remember how hard it was to be a seal.

By Brian on Oct 9, 2010

Yeah, it doesn’t matter that seals are everywhere. We only want to see them from this one man-made beach. We should build more beaches just for the seals. And we can protect the Great White Sharks too since we killed so many of them also. These seals are the perfect food for them. Maybe we’ll get lucky and see a Great White jump out of the water with a seal in its mouth just like on those nature shows. Protect the seals. But don’t you think it is gross that they have to roll around in their own excrement? Shouldn’t the City have to provide a clean place for them to rest? After all, this development wasn’t designed for seals to live on it. The City should maintain it for the seals because without this man-made beach how would anyone ever see seals in their natural environment. Protect the seals

By brian on Oct 9, 2010

awesome cyberkick, I see that I’m getting to you…keep pretending to be me, please…I love knowing how much I’ve affected you….

In the mean time, keep going to this pro-seals-on-the-beach website and keep whining about this. Plus, keep saying ridiculous things like ‘this is the only beach in san diego where kids can safely play’…

how’s it feel cyberkick? How’s it feel to know that you’re officially my bitch now??

By Brian on Oct 9, 2010

P.S. I really love knowing that where ever you are right now, youre pissed off by me.

Now please, start to whine or impersonate me some more, my bitch.

By Brian on Oct 9, 2010

awesome cyberkick, I see that I’m getting to you…keep pretending to be me, please…I love knowing how much I’ve affected you….

In the mean time, keep going to this pro-seals-on-the-beach website and keep whining about this. Plus, keep saying ridiculous things like ‘this is the only beach in san diego where kids can safely play’…

how’s it feel cyberkick? How’s it feel to know that you’re officially my bitch now??

By Brian on Oct 9, 2010

P.S. I really love knowing that where ever you are right now, youre pissed off by me.

Now please, start to whine or impersonate me some more, my bitch.

By Brian on Oct 9, 2010

Yeah, it doesn’t matter that seals are everywhere. We only want to see them from this one man-made beach. We should build more beaches just for the seals. And we can protect the Great White Sharks too since we killed so many of them also. These seals are the perfect food for them. Maybe we’ll get lucky and see a Great White jump out of the water with a seal in its mouth just like on those nature shows. Protect the seals. But don’t you think it is gross that they have to roll around in their own excrement? Shouldn’t the City have to provide a clean place for them to rest? After all, this development wasn’t designed for seals to live on it. The City should maintain it for the seals because without this man-made beach how would anyone ever see seals in their natural environment. Protect the seals, clean the beach.

By Brian on Oct 12, 2010

awesome cyberkick, I see that I’m getting to you…keep pretending to be me, please…I love knowing how much I’ve affected you….

how’s it feel cyberkick? How’s it feel to know that you’re officially my bitch now??

P.S. I really love knowing that where ever you are right now, youre pissed off by me.

Now please, start to whine or impersonate me some more, my bitch.

By Brian on Oct 12, 2010

i am back the wedding was great..my son was very handsome…my ex husband and i took the walk at the wedding as the mom and dad of the groom…did not still well with the new in laws…but to bad…my son new mother in law was made at what we did…oh well life goes on..looks like i did not miss anything ..will get caught up on things later…one thing i learn this weekend is life is very short…it is gone before you know it Brian..you don’t need to call cyberkick the b word..am not trying to be mean…post what you want with out the dirty words…i will be out in dec. to clean seal poo up on the beach….there is a happy middle here we just find it..Brian..are you going to clean seal poo with me ..you want to save the seals..we need to do our part and clean up after them….kimmie

By kimmie on Oct 13, 2010

You shouldn’t talk with cyberDICK. What an asshole.

The middle ground would be to remove people from the area and give it to the seals. There are enough people, and we don’t need to be making things safer all the time. Especially for children since they are even less important than adults.

By Brian on Oct 13, 2010

LOL!!! awwww cyberkick pretended to be me again…whats wrong grumpy-pants? Are your wittle feelings still hurt??? Awwww!!! so cute and precious.

thank you cyberkick for for impersonating me yet again. I see that youre STILL thinking about me. I’m still getting to you. I love it.

Now please, impersonate me some more. Continue to be my bitch.

By Brian on Oct 13, 2010

P.S. I really love knowing that where ever you are right now, youre pissed off by me.

Now please, start to whine or impersonate me some more, my bitch..

By Brian on Oct 13, 2010

i am back the wedding was great..my son was very handsome…my ex husband and i took the walk at the wedding as the mom and dad of the groom…did not still well with the new in laws…but to bad…my son new mother in law was made at what we did…oh well life goes on..looks like i did not miss anything ..will get caught up on things later…one thing i learn this weekend is life is very short…it is gone before you know it Brian..you don’t need to call cyberkick the b word..am not trying to be mean…post what you want with out the dirty words…i will be out in dec. to clean seal poo up on the beach….there is a happy middle here we just find it..Brian..are you going to clean seal poo with me ..you want to save the seals..we need to do our part and clean up after them….kimmie

By Brian on Oct 13, 2010

Brian, it is hard to follow you… what are you talking about? What wedding?

Mr. Pease, you really need to get a grip.

By cyberKICK on Oct 13, 2010

Kimmie, sorry about that, I thought you were brian. Something weird is going on with the website. Brian is making things confusing.

Anyway, glad to heard about the wedding. Happy you had a good time.

December will be fun. That is when the rope goes up and the harassment gets really bad. The council members have been getting letters of complaint from vacationers. La Jolla is not the vacation spot it once was, which is probably why the building is condemed, and the city can’t fix it. The wall is starting to crumble from dis-repair also. They just approved of knocking down part of the lifeguard tower. The bathrooms were closed because the thing might collapse at any time.

Hopefully La Jolla will find the money for repairs soon.

By cyberKICK on Oct 13, 2010

hahaha, now he is attacking other people because he is paranoid that I’m them…

wow, cyberkick, not only do you live on a website that you disagree with…

not only are you a grown man whining like a baby about an “issue” that 99% of people don’t find a problem with…

not only have you resorted to making shit up in order to defend your side of the argument (cough cough This is the only place in San Diego where children can safely swim”)…

but now youre going off on random people because youre afraid that they may be me in hiding…hahahhaha

I’VE REALLY GOTTEN TO YOU!!! NOT ONLY ARE YOU MY BITCH, BUT NOW IVE TRANSFORMED YOU INTO A PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC!!! AWESOME!!!!

even though it makes you even more pathetic each and every time you make a post on this website, please never stop…you are the best entertainment ever. Thank you so much.

By Brian on Oct 13, 2010

The Children’s Pool Beach is NOT reserved for seals. It never was, isn’t now, and never will be. Oh, yes there will be a rope, but it is only because of all these whiny crying seal freaks who just want to get laid by a seal. I have not heard one person say that the seals should be chased away. What is wrong with these people and the seals? The seals are here and they are doing just fine. Leave the people who want to use the beach alone. People paid for this beach to be built and it wasn’t for seals so the freaks should be happy that any seals have been allowed to stay. The seal reserve is over on seal rock where there are lots of seals. Be happy that they are on seal rock where they can’t be disturbed and leave the Beach that was paid for by people to the people. If people let the seals use it, then okay, if not, then okay. The seals aren’t going anywhere.

By Bob on Oct 13, 2010

Again: The City has the Authority to prevent the seals from damaging public property, which the Children’s Pool is, and what feces and urine do.

The MMPA and ESA provide authority to city, county, state, and federal government officials or their employees to deter “nuisance” marine mammals to prevent damage to public property or to protect the public from potential threats by a nuisance animal.

By Balanced on Oct 13, 2010

Yeah, someone please save us from these seals!!! hahahaha!!! I cant sleep at night. They are such a “nuisance”. LOL!!

And Bob, if I wanted to get laid by a fat blubbery animal, I would just call your wife back.

I used to support the seals being on this beach because I simply enjoyed seeing them there. But now, I just want them there because it makes people like Bob, Balanced, and cybergay all mad.

Whats wrong fellas?? Did the seals hurt your wittle feelings??? Awww, so cute. You want Mr. Teddy Bear? Will he make you feel better??? I bet he will…awwwww

LOL!!

By Brian on Oct 14, 2010

The Children’s Pool Beach is NOT reserved for seals. It never was, isn’t now, and never will be. Oh, yes there will be a rope, but it is only because of all these whiny crying seal freaks who just want to get laid by a seal. I have not heard one person say that the seals should be chased away. What is wrong with these people and the seals? The seals are here and they are doing just fine. Leave the people who want to use the beach alone. People paid for this beach to be built and it wasn’t for seals so the freaks should be happy that any seals have been allowed to stay. The seal reserve is over on seal rock where there are lots of seals. Be happy that they are on seal rock where they can’t be disturbed and leave the Beach that was paid for by people to the people. If people let the seals use it, then okay, if not, then okay. The seals aren’t going anywhere.

By Brian on Oct 14, 2010

So I guess all the store owners in La Jolla who love the revenue that comes from the seals being on the beach are all just a bunch of Seal freaks who want to get laid by a seal.

And I dont think anyone thinks that the seals are “going anywhere”. No one thinks that this is the only beach for seals, or that they are endangered, etc… Simply, its a unique tourist attraction thats been around for DECADES and we want to keep it that way.

But leave it to super liberal crybabies like cyberdickinhisass to whine about the seals being there because one of them turned him down for prom several years ago. Speaking of getting laid by seals, he has a broken-off seal cock in his ass right as we speak.

Now please respond and whine some more. Be my bitch and do as I say. Thanks in advance

By Brian on Oct 15, 2010

Brian, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

“I don’t think anyone thinks that the seals are “going anywhere”. No one thinks that this is the only beach for seals, or that they are endangered, etc… Simply, its a unique tourist attraction that’s been around for DECADES and we want to keep it that way.”

Exactly!

The seals aren’t going anywhere so how will letting people use a clean beach change any of this?

By Bob on Oct 15, 2010

Right Bob, it’s like not washing cars because the pigeons will be scared away.

As Brian said: “I don’t think anyone thinks that the seals are “going anywhere”.

If they aren’t going anywhere, why not allow the beach to be cleaned?

By cyberKICK on Oct 16, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4HNTulG6Z8

By Brian on Oct 17, 2010

You forgot this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRqS7zW62ec

By Bob on Oct 17, 2010

Brian, again you are wrong. The local businesses don’t want the seals there… but have been bullied in to not stating it on TV. However, they are represented by the La Jolla Community Planning Association, who has voted to stop the rope year after year. It is those who are in other areas who want this seal toilet here. As long as it isn’t in you back yard right?

By cyberKICK on Oct 17, 2010

Bob and Brian, what am I supposed to see in those links? I watched the videos, and saw nothing significant.

By cyberKICK on Oct 17, 2010

I see that every post on here within the past few days was either about me or someone pretending to BE me. I love it. I love knowing that Ive gotten to the nutjobs on this site.

Awww whats wrong fellas? Did the mean guy named Brian upset you on the website? Awww, you want some tissues??? So cute and precious…

By Brian on Oct 18, 2010

Brian, again you are wrong. The local businesses don’t want the seals there… but have been bullied in to not stating it on TV. However, they are represented by the La Jolla Community Planning Association, who has voted to stop the rope year after year. It is those who are in other areas who want this seal toilet here. As long as it isn’t in you back yard right?

By SealBurgers on Oct 18, 2010

Hi I’m Brain and people like to make fun of me, but I like it! Go on, do it some more! You know you want to.

By Brian on Oct 18, 2010

Wow, sealburger, I see that you believe in conspiracy theories now. What an idiot. Let me guess, Bush was behind 9/11 too wasnt he? Obama is Muslim, right?

So all the business owners that have told me personally that they want the seals there so as to keep up revenue, they were all telling me this because they felt “bullied”.

I envy you, sealburger. Must be nice to just be able to make up bullshit and then force yourself to believe it.

Now make up some more conspiracy theories too. Did you know that the seals are actually a terror cell of Al Quaeda? And the people running this website are Jihadists??

sealburger = conspiracy theory believing dumbass

By Brian on Oct 19, 2010

just when i thought the nutjobs on this website couldnt get any more retarded, they now believe all of the following:

1. La Jolla is a dump
2. This is the only beach in all of San Diego where kids can safely play
and now!!!
3. All local business owners who say they want the seals there are being BULLIED into saying that as part of some conspiracy theory

HAHAHAHA!!!!! Thanks guys. I love knowing that jackasses like sealburger and cyberdickinhismouth have to resort this kind of delusional bullshit in order to support their arguments. I absolutely love it. Thank you again

By Brian on Oct 19, 2010

Opps, sorry, I just found out that the La Jolla Community Planning Commission has actually voted over and over against the rope. However, I talked with a business owner who told me that the organization represents the citizens in the area, not the businesses. So HAHAHAHAHA only the people who live there don’t want the rope.

By Brian on Oct 19, 2010

cyberKICK you are right, the videos just show another normal day at the beach.

By Bob on Oct 19, 2010

I think it is great that people and seals get to interact with each other. This is such a great place. More people should come here every day to play with the seals for free.

By Jeff on Oct 19, 2010

Jeff, I agree. It would be nice if they cleaned the area up though.

I wonder why they stopped cleaning it. They even took the trash cans away.

By SealBurgers on Oct 19, 2010

Bob, what is the point of video recording people using the beach then. The videos were presented as though those people are somehow doing something wrong. It looks to me like they are just having a good time. I saw no evidence of any sort of problem.

By cyberKICK on Oct 19, 2010

I thought that it was interesting that even the kids that are running back and forth didn’t scare the seals away. There should be more volunteer beach cleanups. These harbor seals will clearly just come back to the beach when they want; even when people are there. Keep the beach clean for everyone, children and seals. What is the big deal? What emergency is there?

By Balanced on Oct 20, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRqS7zW62ec

By Balanced on Oct 20, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4HNTulG6Z8

By Balanced on Oct 20, 2010

If you believe any of the following, then you are a complete idiot:

1. La Jolla, one of the most gorgeous towns in America, is a dump.
2. There is no other beach in all of San Diego where kids can play. Mission Bay, for example, is dangerous! haha
3. All business owners who say they want the seals there have actually been bullied into saying that from the media. Its a conspiracy!

Complete idiots…

By Brian on Oct 20, 2010

If you beleive the following you are an idiot:

1) The citizens on La Jolla love the smell of seal-crap all day every day.
2) The condemed building and porta-potties don’t lower propery value and don’t drive business away.
3) Seals will drown if they go in to the water.
4) The Seals need this beach.
5) Watching seals on a man-made artifical beach is watching seals in their natural environment
6) The city is not obligated to honor a contract it signed stating it will keep the beach for the purpose of a “bathing pool for children”
7) Causing seals to go in the water is some sort of harassment. Even seagulls get the seals to do it.
The seals don’t eat all the marine life that used to live in the area.
9) Not having a launch point for beginner divers won’t keep tourists away (see the SD council of divers to see about that).
10) Seal feces is not damaging the public property.

By SealBurgers on Oct 20, 2010

So what youre saying sealburger is that you actually DO believe those 3 things I listed above?

Wow, outstanding…simply outstanding…hahaha

By Brian on Oct 21, 2010

sealburger

so lets see if youre man to actually answer this question…

Are all store owners that say that they want the seals to remain on the beach in fact being bullied by the media into saying that as part of a conspiracy theory?

I bet you also think that scientists concocted the theory of evolution as an elaborate scheme to rid the world of religion, huh? Sounds like some stupid bullshit youd buy into.

Youll belive ANYTHING as long as it supports your side of the argument. Did you know what Godzilla threatened the whole Earth and said that if those seals remain on that beach that he will come and destroy humanity?? Sound stupid? Well it supports your side of the argument, might as well start using it as a talking point. Fucking tool.

By Brian on Oct 21, 2010

Um, I never said anything about a conspiracy theory, that was you Brian. My evidence of the opinion of La Jollians is what is stated by their representatives.

All my points have foundation from actual documents regarding law, published reports from experts in the field, and my own first hand accounting. You have no basis for any of your claims. I have requested you post some of them, but you never do. You sometimes mis-quote things and take them out of context.

Try getting a couple of facts to argue with. Looks at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QymBmb3-RM4&feature=mfu_in_order&playnext=1&videos=u_wZMTTLAbw

She actually accuses the experts from seal world as not knowing what they are doing. There is an injured seal, and it is healing up fine. If she wants to take it to the vet she can pay for it.

Bob, can you believe this guy? He has absolutely no proof of anything he says, but at least he knows some profanities. Profanities always makes your arguments better. Right up there with “na uh”.

HAHAHA

By SealBurgers on Oct 21, 2010

I know you are but what am I

By Bob on Oct 21, 2010

If SeaWorld can run at the seals and scare them all in the water then why is it such a problem if other people who aren’t even trying to scare them, accidentally cause the seals to go into the water?

Will they drown?

This is a Public Park. Animals are going to see people. The seals even get scared if Seagulls fly over. So perhaps we should try to keep Seagulls away from the Children’s Pool also? Andreaelsehahn makes no sense.

By Bob on Oct 21, 2010

brain..I posted something about my son’s wedding and it came up under your name….shame on you..cyberkick and i don’t see eye to eye,,,but at least i am coming out of kansas to clean up seal poo..if you want a happy middle ground..you need to be more polite to the opposite people and do your deal and come shovel seal poo with me..i don’t agree with there side..but i am not rude about it….i think you have a problem…if you want to man up to what you belive in ..come shovel seal poo with me..and play nice in the sand box..there is no point in being rude or nasty..with poeple who don’t agree with us…you make the rest of us look like buttholes…cyberkick..and everyone else on the other side of the fence..i don’t agree with you all..but at least i am not ugly about it..and i am sorry..we have a bad apple in the bunch..i will let you know in nov,,,when i will be out there to clean up seal poo,,,have a great weekend everyone..kimmie

By kimmie on Oct 22, 2010

Kimmie, the part you are missing is that you don’t know how much better the entire area was before. I do. There is where I learned to swim in the ocean. When I was a kid, there was much more wildlife to see here. It was all traded to these seals. If you go back about 15 years, it was wall to wall packed. You had to pay $10 to park 1/2 mile away. We used to have to drop off our group and our stuff, and then the driver would go, pay for parking and sometimes have to take a shuttle back. There were a few seals then, but mostly on seal rock and swimming around. In the water you could find sea hares, starfish, octopi, garabaldi, other fish, and more. Now it is just seals. The entire ecosystem and been just wrecked. The marine biologists have said so, experts have said so, even divers and locals can see it. The side wanting to keep the people away are comprised of people who don’t live in the area. Easy when it isn’t in your back yard.

Now we have problems with smell, a rundown unsafe building, and porta-potties right on our coast blvd (when we used to have bathrooms just downstairs). The porta-potties are frequently full, and I have yet to use them when they have paper.

Seals are super-easy to find, all you have to do is go down to the beaches near scripps pier, look at seal rock, go to the beaches off Cabrillo Memorial Drive, go to blacks beach, and even Ocean Beach. The marine biologists tell me that we have more than 1200 animals just in the 3an Diego area. What the lifeguards tell me is that The Children’s Pool is the safest beach for children because there are no currents. This Brian guy doesn’t understand the difference between ocean swimming and bay swimming. Yea, you can swim in the polluted bay (poluted by storm-drain dump, boats, etc… very little water in the bay is flush out ot the ocean daily). But the experience is not the same. It doesn’t build confidence for ocean swimming. That is why the kids keep wanting to go to the childrens pool to play and swim. All I’ve been asking for is some measure of protection for the kids. Protection from the activists who grab them, yell at them, etc. Also I’ve just been wanting to keep the beach clean. The urine soaks in and smells really bad. I see the rope as a way to attract more seals and cause even more mess. If the City were cleaning the mess, and stopping the activists from yelling, then then seals and I would have no problem. The city doesn’t clean the mess, the activists do yell, and as far as I can see it, if the seals were gone, so would the problems. Of course the seals won’t go, they are hard to get rid of, so why not clean the beach and use it. Even if a few less seals come, there will still be plenty.

By cyberKICK on Oct 22, 2010

Kimmie, You posted something about your son and it came under my name, and thats somehow my fault?!!?? HAHAHAHAHA!!!…yeah, I snuck into your house, signed onto your computer and filled out the “name” field so that it said “Brian” (rolls eyes)

Cyberkick, nice essay there. Youre so right about needing “protection” from the activists. Those skinny 20 year old vegans ARE SO INTIMIDATING!!! hahaha!!! Im scared to leave my home at night because one of the anemic vegetarians might find me and throw a carrot at my ass.

Ill just add that to the already-full list of completely fucking stupid things you have claimed on this site. People now need to protest their kids against scary anemic vegetarians who attack their kids!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

By Brian on Oct 22, 2010

By the same logic, what do 400-lb seals need protection form 40-lb kids? According to you, those seals need protection from those kids.

By cyberKICK on Oct 22, 2010

cyberkick, you actually claim that activists are “grab” the kids on the beach.

This is in addition to your following claims:

1. La JOlla is a dump.
2. No other beach in San Diego is safe for kids.
3. All local business owners are bullied into LYING when they say that they want the seals to remain.

Seriously dude, if you have to come up with such bullshit to support your argument, then whats that say about you???

Its bad enough that you live on a website that you disagree with, spending your days off at a beach that makes you sick, crying about an issue that 99% of people dont give a shit about. And yet, here you are, crying like a bitch. Get some therapy.

What are you going to claim next? Let me guess, the seals are members of Al Quaeda too, huh? I support terrorism by supporting the seals on the beach????

By Brian on Oct 22, 2010

They do grab kids. I’ve seen it myself, and many parients have complained about it. They have caused many children to cry. Fortunately we’ve been able to convince the kids we bring to ignor the “crazy lady” at the top of the stairs. However, not all the activists are crazy old ladies, they have some pretty buff men there who also try to intimidate. Where have you been going? People have even been tazed for using the beach, so yea, I’d like some protection for the children of the public park.

According to you, if a public park becones polluted and taken over by gangs, the thing to do is not use the park anymore? Yea, great idea. Maybe if everybody just stayed indoors that would be the way to go? Maybe we should move the city someplace where there are no animals to disturb? Careful, don’t disturb that fly in your house. If you scare it away its harassment.

By cyberKICK on Oct 22, 2010

Just watch YouTube to see some activists in action. Some are hoping that people get bitten by the seals. Like that will ever happen.

By Bob on Oct 25, 2010

If a seal bites you do you get to bite it back or is that harassment too?

By SealBurgers on Oct 25, 2010

I was about to make a post asking Bob and Sealburger to at least admit that cyberkick’s last post was insane, but I see that theyre willing to defend absolutely anything.

Yeah, guys, the anemic 140 lb vegetarians who sit at their tables at the seal beach are a “GANG” who “TAZES” people. LOL!!! And please let me know why no charges have been brought. Let me guess, they paid off the police? HAHAHAHA.

Seriously, I would like to believe that you guys are just saying stupid shit for the purpose of amusing yourselves on this website, but ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS SHIT!! hahahaha

Im surprised that cyberkick goes to that beach anymore, seeing as how the mean vegans are so violent and mean. I mean, why would you even post on this site? I mean, its run by a “GANG” (LOL!) who “ATTACKS” children.

But cyberkick, you and I both know why you keep posting on here. You’re my bitch, and you do whatever I tell you to. Now please, post some more insane bullshit that makes you look even more fucking retarded. Dont do it because you want to. Do it because I fucking told you to. I’m waiting…

By Brian on Oct 25, 2010

I am surprised that anyone is still reading this BS. Do these guys just want to always be the last one who posted or what?

By Balanced on Oct 26, 2010

cyberkick…i made my travel plans for the first of december…brian…i am going out there and thru seal poo in your face…for posting my son’s wedding under your name..you run fast..am good with a shovel..cyberkick..i will be honor to shovel seal poo with you side by side..brian you are a mess..i don’t agree with everyone on this but i am going to woman up and clean seal poo to do my part….coming out of kansas..brian..you need to clean up your dirty mouth…you don’t need to use those words….aganist the seals or for them…we can at least come as one to clean up seal poo…brian..you are not invited..you have some mental issue going on..kimmie…see you all in december…kimmie

By kimmie on Oct 26, 2010

Brian, they do taze people at that beach, read this:

http://activistcash.com/biography.cfm/b/3247-bryan-pease

Why do you keep thinking 100% of the activists are 140-lb vegans? Makes no sense unless you have never actually been there.

Charges were filed.

By cyberKICK on Oct 26, 2010

Oh yea, and charges have been filed against others. I have the links somewhere, but can’t find them right now. Why don’t you come up with something showing how NONE of these activists have been violent. Why don’t you go to the beach once before pretending you know what is going on there.

By cyberKICK on Oct 26, 2010

kimmie, I have never posted anything under your name. And I hope you realize that youre defending nutjobs like cyberkick, who claim that YOU ARE A PART OF A GANG WHO ATTACKS CHILDREN!!!

cyberkick, seriously, is this your fucking religion now or something? “Anti-seals on a beach-ism” The nonsense that you claim would be enraging if it wasnt just hilariously over-the-top.

And I love how youre saying that I cant post proof of them not assaulting kids, so thats somehow proof that they have. Yeah, cyberkick, by that logic, can you post a video PROVING that you werent raped by a seal? I mean, i have the links somewhere but I just cant find them. Why dont you come up wiht something showing how you never were fucked in the ass by a seal? I mean, it would explain why youre so religiously opposed to them. And by your backwards nutjob logic, no evidence has been presented proving that you HAVENT been raped by one, so I think its safe to say that you were.

Now please, for your own safety, dont go back to that beach. That 120 lb vegan leftist who sits at the table with stuffed animals and brochures…he might get you!! He once tazed a guy you know with his imaginary gun. And he sometimes beats up infants. Charges have been filed against him but its apparently a slow legal process. Its amazing that he’s alive seeing as how the parents know he assaulted their kids. And he might get you next. He’s apparently very crafty. HE’S DONE THESE ATROCITIES AND HE’S NOT BEHIND BARS!!!!! And without you making me laugh on this website, who else would I laugh at?

And finally, I think im the only person here who actually really goes to this beach. Anyone who claims that La Jolla is a dump, or that a GANG hangs out there, or that no other beach is available for kids in the whole city…if you believe any of that, I doubt youve been to La Jolla, hell…I doubt youve been to fucking San Diego county.

Now please, cyberkick, dont disappoint me with your next post. Let me laugh out loud again. Your last post merely made me smile. Give me a good one next time.

By Brian on Oct 27, 2010

Um, Brian, You post more than anybody else here, so you shouldn’t be so quick to say I live here.

Since you like to take things out of context, I guess I need to respond to your last post. What I said was

” …charges have been filed against others. I have the links somewhere, but can’t find them right now. Why don’t you come up with something showing how NONE of these activists have been violent. Why don’t you go to the beach once before pretending you know what is going on there.”

After posting a link to a site describing charges filed againt 1 person. You claimed no charges have ever been filed against anyone, and I simply asked you to back up what you claimed.

You said ” …let me know why no charges have been brought.”

But they have been brought.

By cyberKICK on Oct 27, 2010

Brian

Get a hobby. Obviously not shown enough attention as a child. Pitiful.

By people come first on Oct 27, 2010

Get a hobby? Am I the one hanging out on a website that I disagree with??? LOL!!

And yes, I post on here alot. Seeing as how every post is either about me or directed towards me, I must be doing something right

If you dont like it, then why do you keep posting on here?? You dont want to read my posts, you disagree with this website, and you “have a life”. So why????

Oh, I know why. Because youre my bitch, cyberkick. I got to you. The seals have gotten to you. You cant let it go, can you sweety? You need to get that anger out, dont you??? Awwww, poor baby….sooo cute….

I spend a grand total of 5 minutes on this webiste a day, and I get the simple pleasure of knowing that some whiny bitch named cyberkick is pissed off like a little baby because of it. ITS SO WORTH IT. Im sure when I check back on here tonite, I will have another message from you waiting. Please dont let me down, my bitch. So precious….

By Brian on Oct 27, 2010

Marine mammals make comeback
Sharks may be right behind

By Mike Lee, UNION-TRIBUNE

Saturday, September 4, 2010 at 6 p.m.

Populations of sea lions such as this one near Shelter Island have boomed since Congress passed protections for marine mammals in 1972.
Shark encounters rising

Decades of data suggest that the white shark population is growing off the coast of California, some shark experts said as the final big beach weekend of the summer approached.

They attribute it to a dramatic increase in food sources, such as sea lions, prohibitions against catching sharks and other factors.

“What we are seeing is exactly what we should expect to see if you are going to put in protections for a population,” Chris Lowe , who runs the Shark Lab at California State University Long Beach.

He recently completed a study of shark reports by fishermen over the past century. Lowe won’t release specific numbers because they are under review by a scientific journal but he said his findings support the theory that white sharks are coming back off the state’s coast.

The nonprofit Shark Research Committee, which has tracked shark encounters since the 1960s, has verified 53 attacks on the West Coast since 2000 — about half the total for the entire 20th century.

Founder Ralph Collier suspects it’s a sign that shark numbers are growing but he said such theories are hard to prove because beach use by people has risen dramatically and boosted the chances for run-ins with the predators.

That’s certainly the case in La Jolla, where lifeguards warned beachgoers to watch for white sharks in mid-August. People started reporting the feared creatures all over.

“People have sharks on the mind,” said San Diego Lifeguard Sgt. Rich Stropky.

When Congress created a marine mammal safety net in the early 1970s, many creatures living along the nation’s coastlines were in deep distress.

“They have been shot, blown up, clubbed to death, run down by boats, poisoned and exposed to a multitude of other indignities, all in the interests of profit or recreation,” said a legislative report in 1971.

The extent to which such actions seem strange four decades later is a testament to how the Marine Mammal Protection Act has changed social norms. Biologists said the federal law has done more than that: The general ban on hunting and harassment is viewed as a major reason why several marine mammal populations are thriving in coastal California to the point that some people wonder whether there are too many of certain animals.

Scientists tend to downplay talk about overpopulation. Marine mammals are an important element in the food chain, they said, and they will be kept in check by top feeders such as great white sharks that also may be increasing along the California coast.

“It’s been pretty damn successful,” said David Cottingham, chief of marine mammal conservation for the National Marine Fisheries Service, which enforces protections for sea life. “If you stop killing wildlife, they reproduce. … When prey is abundant, these predators do pretty well.”

Rising numbers of marine mammals don’t please everyone. Fisheries officials reported more than 230 sea lions died from gunshots in a recent five-year period, likely the result of anglers frustrated by competing with the animals for fish.

In La Jolla, fights have erupted during the ongoing debate about whether seals or people have top priority at the Children’s Pool beach. And in Orange County, pinnipeds have gathered on boats and sunk them, angering vessel owners.

Jay Barlow, a biologist for the fisheries service in La Jolla, said he’s not aware of an overall assessment of the mammal protection act, but the species-by-species reports his agency publishes each year show several successes.

Harbor seals are an example familiar to beachgoers in San Diego County. They have taken over the Children’s Pool cove and they haul out at roughly 1,000 other spots along the California coast.

Only a few hundred survived hunting in the 19th century but their numbers skyrocketed past 34,000 after marine mammal protections went into place.

Humpback whales in the North Pacific also have bounced back, from an estimated 1,200 in 1966 to roughly 20,000 in 2006, the fisheries service said.

California sea lion numbers also have risen remarkably since tens of thousands were hunted for their whiskers, testes and oil in the late 1800s and pet food in late 1930s.

By the 1970s, there were roughly 50,000 of California sea lions. The population recently hit 238,000.

It’s not clear how big the numbers can get before sea lions reach the carrying capacity of the state’s shoreline ecosystem. “There have been lots of predictions that sea lions are there, and every one of them turns out to be wrong,” Barlow said.

Barlow said the marine mammal act isn’t the only factor that has benefitted coastal animals. Whales got a big boost from international treaties that limit harvest and southern sea otters are guarded by the U.S. Endangered Species Act.

Not every species protected by the marine mammal law is on the upswing. Right whales and monk seals aren’t thriving and southern sea otters continue to flounder.

In early August, the U.S. Geological Survey said the annual count of southern sea otters were down for the second year in a row with roughly 2,700 statewide.

Several factors likely are behind the trend, including predation by sharks. The Monterey Bay Aquarium reported at least three young otters in August whose mothers appear to have been attacked by great whites.

“The proportion of otter strandings attributable to shark bite mortality has increased dramatically over the last decade or so,” said Brian Hatfield at the Geological Survey in Santa Cruz.

Rising shark encounters don’t surprise Chris Lowe, director of the Shark Lab at California State University Long Beach. His research into shark-human interactions over the past century suggests a growing population of great whites in California’s coastal zone.

Lowe said the success of creatures shielded by the Marine Mammal Protection Act is a likely contributor because it means more food for apex predators.

“Those populations have come back better than anybody predicted,” he said.

Mike Lee: (619)293-2034; mike.lee@uniontrib.com. Follow on Twitter @sdenvirobeat.

By Brian on Oct 27, 2010

All the posts I’ve read here, up until now, have been very mature and decent regardless of whether pro or con. It’s unfortunate that the hostility of one childish contributor could spoil the integrity of the whole argument. It appears that any comment will be posted no matter how vulgar or assanine or inflammatory. Doesn’t surprise me given that FOS are in charge.

By people come first on Oct 27, 2010

Well I see that my bitch is posing as me and typing up a book’s worth of crap that no one is going to read.

People come first, are you serious? So accusing pro-seal activists of being a “gang that is assaulting children” is mature and decent? Calling La Jolla “a dump because of the seals” is mature? Claiming that “this is the only beach in all of San Diego where kids can play” is honesty?

I appreciate the fact that YOU want a mature and decent discussion. However, you have nutjobs like cyberkick posting bullshit thats so far out of reality that its not even worth trying to debate the faggot. I actually tried way back if you feel like scrolling up, only to be accused of bullshit “you dont know that seals live in the ocean, Brian, you ignorant dumbass.” Then I realized how retarded it is to try and debate the issue with such a completely fucking retarded moron. So yeah, I decided to devote my time to making fun of him and his kind.

It amuses me. And if you dont like it, then I have to ask the same question that Ive asked cyberdickinhisass. Why do you come here then? You think the people who run this website are stupid, so why even bother? There are a million more popular websites than this one. Hell, only 5 people regularly post on here. I think youll live just fine if you stopped looking at my posts. Cuz Im not going to stop anytime soon. Im not done laughing at these nutjobs. Sorry about your luck…

By Brian on Oct 27, 2010

I notice that you make up a bunch of stuff and claim it is me being immature, but you didn’t quote me, you just quoted yourself… interesting idea. I notice you never have any links or documantation of your claims. I have documentation of mine. I’ve shared it here, and you have chosen to ignor it.

You ask why I would post where people disagree, well, the simple answer is, how can anyone learn and grow only talking with people who have the exact same opinion. The purpose of a blog is to gather different points of view.

You might want to try the RSS feature of this website as it allows you to receive a notification when someone posts. That will save you a bunch of time.

By cyberKICK on Oct 27, 2010

Yeah, it’s way better to use the RSS feeds in Outlook since then you never have to look at the web site unless someone has posted. I can’t imagine doing it any other way. You simply get the address from the RSS feeds dropdown in Internet Explorer and paste it into a new feed in Outlook.

By Bob on Oct 27, 2010

Exactly. Then you don’t need to keep checking the website all the time. If you select both of the addresses then you will also be notified when a new blog is started. That will also prompt you to read the new page. It’s great. Why would anyone want to check the site over and over just hoping for a new post, when you can be notified via RSS automatically. Just go about your business, and when a new post occurs, you can read it in the notification, and click “more info” to enter a reply.

By cyberKICK on Oct 28, 2010

Those arent your claims?? Which of the following do you disagree with, cybercockinyourmouth???

1. a gang hangs out at the beach and has physically assaulted kids
2. La Jolla is a dump
3. Store owners in the area who claim they want the beach reserved for seals have been bullied by the media to say so
4. there is no other safe beach in san diego where kids can play

Which of those do you disagree with, cyber??

When you read this post within the next hour, ask yourself again, why do you live on a website that you disagree with, bitching about someone like me being on here? Which one of those seals turned you down for prom, you sick-fuck? If I go give her a piece of my mind, will you stop crying like a little bitch nonstop on a website that you hate? I cant stand Glenn Beck, which is why Ill never go to his website. You LIVE on a website that you hate everything about. Its fascinating. Do you come on here, just to cry some more, so that you can use your tears for lubrication? Is it some sick fetish between you and your boyfriend? What a fag.

By Brian on Oct 28, 2010

HAHAHAHA, I got you to not post!!!

You are my BITCH!!!!!!

By Brian on Oct 28, 2010

Typically when someone repeats the same exact statements over and over, they have nothing substantial to contribute. They start to get aggravated that the ability to create an original thought escapes them. Obsession sets in and it leads to anger and the need to lash out. Often in childish and immature ways. He tries to lure others into his hysteria due to misery loving company and tries to convince himself that he is in control of the situation.

By people come first on Oct 28, 2010

Well Brian, you didn’t give him much time. I have to agree with people come first though. You don’t seem to have any arguments, and only want to visit this site in order to yell at people. I’d bet you go places and try to control what people are doing. You seem to be full of a lot of hate and anger. Have you considered meditation or something? You might be a lot happier if you chilled out a bit.

You keep claiming people say stuff that they didn’t. You need to read more carefully, you are just making your side look like a bunch of loons.

While Kimmie, has posted very little lately, at least she attempts to back up her point of view with evidence. Where is yours? Show me a link to a trusted source about what you claim. Please. If you got nothing and are just here to complain about how others post, perhaps you should be looking at yourself.

Just a thought. Have a wonderful day

By SealBurgers on Oct 28, 2010

I do repeat myself a lot on here. When the anti-seal people are saying such incredibly fucking retarded statements, it bears worth repeating.

“No other beach in San Diego is safe for kids”
“All store owners in La Jolla who say they want the seals to remain have been bullied by the media to say so”
“La Jolla is a dump”
“Seal activists attack children”

When you can finally admit that each of those statements above is complete bullshit, then I’ll move on to something else. Until then, I will keep laughing at your sorry asses.

And yeah, Im sooo angry, hahahahha!!!! Which is why I protest against seals on a beach on my days off, hanging out at a website that I hate, calling myself “sealburger” because I think that that name might offend some vegetarian or something. Oh wait, thats not me doing all those things…its YOU!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Im soooo angry!!! HAHAHHAA!!!

By Brian on Oct 28, 2010

So to be clear, you are saying that the Lifeguards statements about how it is the safest beach in all of San Diego becuase there are no currents is BS (according to you).

The fact that the La Jolla City Planning Commission has found over and over that La Jolla would be better without a rope is BS.

The fact that La Jolla is not the city it once was, and that the condemed buildings, odor, and porta-potties have NO EFFECT on the dropping property values.

The fact that the seal activists have been arrested, have accosted MANY children, yelled at them, made them cry, and even taze an old man is total BS and the police records that document it is all BS too.

You know, I’d have to agree with cyberKICK on this one.

Why do you try getting some facts. All your hate comments don’t prove anything other than that you have nothing to stand on.

By SealBurgers on Oct 28, 2010

Wow, you actually didnt disagree with any of those statements. I mean, I shouldnt be surprised. It takes a pretty extreme person to hang out on a website that they hate, just to respond daily to someone like me who is constantly making fun of them.

The idea that anyone could walk through La Jolla and think that it is becoming ghetto. Wow, Id really love to see what you consider a NICE city, seeing as how La Jolla is apparently a dump to you. You must think that Coronado sucks too.

That is why I think it would actually be even more silly of me to try and have a rational debate with someone like you. Anyone who can even attempt to make the argument that the seals on that beach have caused La Jolla, the most gorgeous part of San Diego, to become run-down and dumpy, has either never been there or is simply insane.

Because I think you have been there, I guess that pretty much narrows it down, doesnt it? Next time youre there and you see a couple getting married on the beach, just feel bad for them that they picked such an awful area to get married. Wow, what a dump. HAHAHAHA!!

By Brian on Oct 29, 2010

Oh and sealburger, it sounds to me like YOURE the angry one, huh? Awwww, so cute….

Im laughing at you and youre pissed off. Whats that tell you? HAHAHA!

By Brian on Oct 29, 2010

By the way, im having a bet with my friend here. He thinks that itll take you a full day to respond back with some more angry whiny bullshit. I think its going to take much less than that. I got 5 dollars riding on this. Dont let me down, sealfaggot.

By Brian on Oct 29, 2010

I suspect that Brian isn’t who he’s claiming to be. I don’t believe “his” name is Brian at all. “He” is way too emotional in his posts and “he” uses “HAHAHAHA” way too much to believe that “he” is even of the male gender. I’m gambling that “he” is either the psychotic Dorota (disguised as a male contributor) or some other angry female. Thoughts?

By people come first on Oct 29, 2010

@ people come first:

I’ve posted a reply already but it is “pending approval”. I don’t know why.

By cyberKICK on Oct 29, 2010

I posted it yesterday. I don’t know why these are going thru right away and yesterdays is still “pending approval”. Strange.

By cyberKICK on Oct 29, 2010

@ Brian. Facts are facts. I’ve posted many solid sources. You have posted none.

By cyberKICK on Oct 29, 2010

I made 5 bucks!!! WOOOO!!! Thanks guys!

By Brian on Oct 29, 2010

And let me get this right, its a FACT that La Jolla is a “dump”? Wow, now insane opinions are facts. Thank you, my bitch. I done learned something just now, I sure did. Yeeehawww!!!

By Brian on Oct 29, 2010

Wow, I just learned something new. Opinions are facts, and my license is wrong too. Im no longer named Brian. Wow. Thanks again guys for obsessing so much over my posts. Pissing off whiny fags on this website will never get old.

By Brian on Oct 29, 2010

Good grief, no, an opinion is not a fact. Where do you get this stuff from? That is not at all what I said.

By cyberKICK on Oct 29, 2010

HAHAHA, everbody look, Brian says ” Opinions are facts”

By cyberKICK on Oct 29, 2010

Brian says “its a FACT that La Jolla is a dump”

By cyberKICK on Oct 29, 2010

I AM BACK…we have been busy cutting wood for our home for the winter..plus…i have been sick…brian..you need to drop the dirty words..cyberkick is not your b@@@@..you lack class…thank you seal burger..okay brain if you think La Jolla is such a dump…come out with me and help me clean up seal poo…with cyber kick and me…like my dad always said..get on the pot on poo or get off…if you don’t like the beach there than help clean it up..i don’t see eye to eye with everyone on this …but we all need to make it a happy middle ground…you are rude and nasty and a ugly person….and i think you feed off of this..you won 5 dollars are you going to the golden arches to get a happy meal? we all need to work together on this…this is everyone problem…man up…ARE YOU GOING TO MAN UP AND HELP ME CLEAN UP SEAL POO IN DECE..I GOT A BET RIDDING ON YOU THAT YOU WILL NOT SHOW UP..PLEASE MAKE ME WRONG ON THIS..have a great weekend everyone..cyberkick..brian missed his meds….he is a sick puppy..anyone else who wants to clean up seal poo please let me know..kimmie

By kimmie on Oct 30, 2010

Kimmie,

If you like I can make some calls and get an official beach cleanup to happen. Give me some specific dates (weekends) and I’ll see what I can do.

SealBurgers, glad you agree with me on at least some of my points. I thank you for citing some decent sources. I’ve also recently seen some interesting stuff on the news regarding what the marine biologists are saying. I also find it interesting that even though an EIR was done, the city chose not to look at it becuase the Army didn’t do it as a joint effort. Instead of reading all the EIR’s supplied by all the sources, the city requesting a single report done as a group effort of all agencies. Very shady. At least read it and make it public record (come to think of it, maybe it is public record). I’d love to see what it says.

As for the rope, it doesn’t really matter. Even if they get the rope up, I will continue to use the beach, and enjoy my own private roped off area. If I get a ticket (yea right) I’ll fight it, and demand my day in court. Let them explain how a public beach is closed in spite of law (which I have carefully read).

Also, kimmie, $5 is probably big money to Brian. If you’ll remember, the whole reason he can’t look at the seals in point loma or at sea world or even at the beaches under the bluffs is that he doens’t have the money for gas or sea world tickets. I doubt he even lives anywhere near La Jolla, and probably that is why he wants a seal toilet in our back yard (not his).

By cyberKICK on Oct 30, 2010

cyberkick; note brian did not respond to this..we are all in this together..seal poo needs to be clean up..am good at this..i will not put up with dirty words…we all need to work together on this ..i will let you know next month what is going on…have a great weekend…brian.did you fall face first into seal poo….come help me clean up the beach..i will pay your gas or come pick you up in dec…at least i will be warm…while the snow is flying in kansas..kimmie..i am back….

By kimmie on Oct 30, 2010

Happy Halloween everybody. Don’t scare anyone though as that might be considered harassment.

Kimmie, You are right in that there should be some middle ground. The beach-access people are of the opinion that a managed group of seals is good, and cleanup will be much easier. The seal people want there to be no people on the beach and have the entire beach, and the beaches on both sides dedicated to seals. I’ve talked with them, and some are of the opinion that ALL beaches should be dedicated to them. So much for sharing.

For the record, it is the seal people who have been against “shared” use. Seals get along with people just fine. If they happen to flush, just wait 5 minutes and they come back.

If you feel shared use is good, well, that makes you a beach access person, if you feel no people and only seals, then you are a seal person. As of yet, I haven’t found anyone who wants no seals. I feel that if I have to choose between only seals or only children, then yea, children. That doesn’t mean I hate seal or even want them all gone. It is an answer to a multiple choice question designed to seperate people in to 2 camps, when clearly there are more opinions then that.

By SealBurgers on Oct 31, 2010

sealburgers..am caught in the middle now…I was frist for the seals…now am in the middle..i grew up with seals as a kid in the 70′s in my dad’s boat..we are all in this together..yes i will come out from kansas and clean up seal poo…since i work in the medical business..the poo will not bother me…i just wish people need to know this is our problem…we need to find a happy middle ground…i gusse i have been in kansas to long..the poeple out here are great..am afraid i am going to be shocked when i come out there …and find a mess…that is okay…i think..but brian needs to drop the dirty words..on calling people names..that is total rude…i don’t call him dirty words…i want him to come out and help me clean up seal poo…i will pay for the gas for the car…and maybe if he is good i will buy him lunch…seal burgers…are you going to help me clean up seal poo?…would be proud to have you there….cyberkick said they would assist me with a poo poo patrol..have a great week…brian..what is the problem…i gusse you met your match with me ..man up and come clean poo with me ..i will cover your gas and your lunch….kimmie

By kimmie on Nov 1, 2010

I might go cleanup again. Its not just the turds though… the urine causes a very strong ammonia smell. It wouldn’t be so bad if they pumped some of the sand out so that the tides could rinse it off from time to time. Right now the sand buildup is so high that the tides never reach where the seals have deficated. The city had promised to keep the pool clean. There were openings in the wall to allow the sand to stay at the right level, but they were closed off to let the sand build up faster. When they fist built the wall they decided to close those openings so they could ship in less sand. The idea was to open them once there was enough sand. That got forgot (the company contracted was probably gone… it was about 10 years later).

All I want is for the beach to be properly cleaned, have the sand level reduced to natural processes can keep it clean, and for the activist to stop yelling at the kids. There is a while where free speech and public nuisance are seperated. If your protesting interferes with legal activites (like using a public park) then it is a violation. That is why those Hari-Crishnas (sp?) are not allowed in the airports anymore.

I break no laws by using the beach. The activists have called the police on me many times for simply sitting in my chair on the beach. The police don’t even come and talk with me anymore. They just look at me from the sidewalk and tell them I am breaking no laws.

Did you know that the city is paying to have the police roll out to the beach more than 200 times a year. How is that not a nuisance?

By SealBurgers on Nov 1, 2010

Oh yea, I was there once with a small fire in a legal container. a whopping 10″ fire. They called the fire dept when we were having rolling fire dept blackuots (the city didn’t have enough money for fund all the fire stations). They rolled out the ladder truck, as well as the regular one. Alarms blazing and everything. When the 8 firemen/women arrived and saw the 1, 10″ fire, they were pissed. They asked if that was it… apparently they were told there was a huge dangerous fire on the beach. Are you kidding me? the fire wasn’t even a foot high, it was on a beach, in a metal container off the sand. The fire dept could have been helping people who needed it, rather than coming to the beach for nothing. No tickets, no warnings, in fact, they told us we had a great setup and were totally within our rights. They ratified that we were not doing anything wrong. It was just activists trying to ruin an otherwise great evening.

By SealBurgers on Nov 1, 2010

sealburgers..a huge fire ..what a waste of the tax payers money…i can handle the pee smell..am around it all day at my job….go to the clean up with me …even thou we don’t see eye to eye on this …we can show them a happy middle ground….i will look foward to meeting you and cyberkick…note brian has not made one remark on this..brian if you see this come clean seal poo and pee with us…and play nice..have a great week…kimmie

By kimmie on Nov 2, 2010

When is the clean-up party? Will cyberkick be there? Can I laugh directly into his face? Will he try to rape me? Im convinced that he’s a child molestor, seeing as how he’s trying nonstop to lure small children to “a dump” where he can “protect them”. Sounds awfully sketchy to this observer….

I just know that I’ve read many reasons from the anti-seal nutjobs on this website as to why no child should ever go near this beach:

1. Its a dump.
2. Pro-seal nutjobs assault kids
3. Its overrun by seals
4. It stinks
5. Its full of shit.

I could go on and on. But if any of this is to be believed, then why on Earth would you want a child near there??!! If its such an awful foul place, then why??

Not to mention, the smell comes from seagulls, not the seals. Might as well spend a million dollars on every beach in San Diego so as to get rid of all the seagulls.

By Brian on Nov 2, 2010

Interesting, those are all very good reasons to clean up the beach…

As for the seagull smell, you clearly have not been there. The beach isn’t covered in seagull defication, but seal. Also, I guess what you are saying is that the biologists that were hired to test the sand and water and run DNA test don’t know what they are doing. What scientific analysis have you done to refute the findings of the experts? My guess is you are just making stuff up again.

Why don’t you ever post any documentation of your findings? Where is the support of your claims? I’m not the only one who has asked you for this. You just have none. I still can’t believe you think “opinions are facts”.

By SealBurgers on Nov 2, 2010

I learn something new every day on this nutjob board. I have never been to this beach. Wow, I must be on some really good drugs then.

Wow, sealburger, i love how you dont get sarcasm. “Opinions are facts” was a sarcastic statement. Let me break that down for you. While you getting fucked in the ass by a sea lion, and crying like a bitch on this website, I was making fun of you. You stated that this place was a dump simply cuz you felt that way. To which I replied “wow, opinions are now facts”. Now I understand that you cant even agree to disagree on anything as trivial as that, because you this whole issue is like a RELIGION to you. If you would like me to break this down further for your dumb ass, I can. Im all about helping the less fortunate. Does that help, sweety?

Also, I really think that YOU Have never been there. Those white stains EVERYWHERE on the rocks. Let me give you a hint. The seals didnt fly up there and take a white shit. And that same smell can be found in many places up and down the coast.

Those seals are smarter than I thought. They have mastered flight, and are secretly spreading seagull shit everywhere on the coast. SOMEONE MUST STOP THEM!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

sealburger = WHAT A FUCKING DUMBASS!!! LOL!!

By Brian on Nov 2, 2010

So that huge diarrea stains on the sand and bigger than human size turds are from seagulls? Wow, see, the biologists seem to think they are from seals.

You were the one who said “opinions are facts”. I wasn’t the one who said that. Now you want to change your belief? Interesting.

By SealBurgers on Nov 2, 2010

Brian is such a crybaby.

Hey SealBurgers, if you see Brian on the beach don’t turn your back to him, he might try to rape you.

By Bob on Nov 2, 2010

Bob, if that your opinion or fact? Oh wait, they are the same thing.

By SealBurgers on Nov 2, 2010

Bob, did you know that according to Brian, opinions are facts? He like to make them up to. I didn’t even know you could mnke up facts. I have always gotten mine from reliable sources. I look stuff up, verify it. If possible test the “facts” against other known facts… you know, the whole scientific method. I guess really all you need to do is make stuff up and somehow it becomes fact. At least according to this Brian person.

Brian, good news, kimmie offered to give you a ride to the beach because you can’t afford it. Maybe you’ll buy something… wait, broke. Nevermind.

By SealBurgers on Nov 2, 2010

I suggest all you guys (if Brian is one) get some boxing gloves and duke it out right there on the sand at Casa Beach. I’ll even put up $20 to the last guy standing. It would be a much better way to burn off energy. Rather than the unending rants on here. Nobody will be hurt badly, a few scores will be settled and everyone can help clean up the beach afterward. Any takers?

By people come first on Nov 2, 2010

But we think the unending rants are funny.
We don’t want Brian to stop posting.
Brian can’t afford to go anywhere else to talk to anyone. He’s broke remember. So he has to post here.
I mean who else thinks that opinions are facts.

By Bob on Nov 2, 2010

Are you trying to come out of the closet Brian.
I suppose if he had more money he could go to a gay bar.

By Bob on Nov 2, 2010

I don’t know how beating his ass would solve anything.

I do find it interesting that he somehow thinks that opinions are facts…

I also don’t understand how he can think that 200 seals deficates less that 4 seagulls. Even if we ignor the scientists who ran the DNS tests and analyzed the sand and water, it still wouldn’t make any sense for just large stains to have come for anything less than a 300+ lb animal. Besides that, you can smell it when they drop a load (and you can see them do it too).

Clearly Brian you are incorrect in your “fact” that all the odor comes from seagulls.

By cyberKICK on Nov 3, 2010

Awww, cyberkick, you want to beat my ass now??!?! HAHAHAHA, I really fucking got to you, didnt I?? Aww, poor thing.

I only come on here to piss off the nutjobs who actually believe that La Jolla is a dump and that this is the only beach in all of San Diego where kids can safely play. Not to mention, you hang out on a website THAT YOU HATE. (seriously, who does that??!?!)

Thanks cyberkick for demonstrating that Ive been successful. Thank you for being so easy to piss off. I bet youd love nothing more than to punch me, wouldnt you sweety??

Awwww, poor poor thing….

In case you cant tell, Im once again laughing my ass off at you.

You are once again MY BITCH

By Brian on Nov 3, 2010

Seriously, cyberkick. How does it feel?? How’s it feel to be my bitch on this website?

Hows it feel to let a complete stranger online piss you off so much to where you want to beat his ass? Are you this sensitive in person, or are you just a cyberpussy?

Youve tried saying that I’m some chick posing as a guy. Youve tried making every possible bullshit crazy argument. Youve tried threatening to beat my ass or take my comments on here and submit them to city counsel.

To sum it up, IVE GOTTEN TO YOUR SENSITIVE ASS. LOL!!!!

Thank you for making this so fucking easy. And thanks in advance for not stopping your posts. I love knowing that you will be crying like a bitch to my posts on this site for a very long time. Thank you so much.

By Brian on Nov 3, 2010

Actually, I was responding to someone else’s post who what suggesting I get in a fight or something. I said that wouldn’t do any good. Good grief Brian, can’t you read?

I wasn’t the one accusing you of being female, again, you have me confused with somebody else.

Wait, I guess since opinions are facts (according to Brian), you must be female since someone’s opinion is that you are female…

By cyberKICK on Nov 3, 2010

Miss Brian posts some funny stuff.

By Bob on Nov 3, 2010

Wow, it sure as hell didnt take me long to whine some more. Brian posts something, and then I cry like a bitch about it within 10 minutes.

Why do I hang out on a website that I absolutely hate? Only my psychiatrist knows for sure. When I’m not doing this, I’m looking at the beautiful coastal homes in La Jolla and convincing myself that they look terrible….because of seals…uh, yeah.

Now let me submit this comment, and keep refreshing the page over and over again until Brian responds to me, because I absolutely live on this website. Please Brian, I need your abuse.

By cyberkick on Nov 3, 2010

This is a post from Brian. Cyberkick will start whining like a bitch in response to this post within a few minutes.

By Brian on Nov 3, 2010

Fuck you Brian, you asshole. The seals hurt my feelings. YOU have hurt my feelings.

La Jolla sucks. The seals ruined everything! Kids cant play in the ocean anymore anywhere in San Diego! The pro-seal activists attack me whenever I go to the beach! They paid off the local business owners to pretend like they want the seals there! WAHHHH!!!! WAHHHH!!!!

Opinions are facts, or something. I apparently dont get sarcasm either. WAHHHH!! WAHHHH!!!! Now please Brian, respond. This is the closest thing Ive ever had to a friend.

Maybe we can meet offline one day and you can fuck me in the ass, seeing as how I’m obviously already your bitch.

By cyberkick on Nov 3, 2010

LOLOL!!! @cyberkick

By Brian on Nov 3, 2010

Brian, you just can’t get enought of me can you. That is a fact (and according to Brian, opinions are facts)… Yep, good stuff.

By cyberKICK on Nov 3, 2010

Brian lives for this stuff.
Now he’s having conversations with himself.
If someone doesn’t post what you want them to then post it yourself.
That’s hilarious.
Do it again.

By Bob on Nov 3, 2010

This is a post from Brian. Cyberkick will start whining like a bitch in response to this post within a few minutes.

By Brian on Nov 3, 2010

Why do I hang out on a website that I absolutely hate? Only my psychiatrist knows for sure.

By Brian on Nov 3, 2010

The seals hurt my feelings. YOU have hurt my feelings. La Jolla sucks. The seals ruined everything! The pro-seal activists attack me whenever I go to the beach!

By Brian on Nov 3, 2010

Thank you cyberkick for once again letting me get to you. You probably thought to yourself “fuck that website, why should I even bother checking that board”, but you and I both know that you CANT stay away, can you?

This argument means too much to you. Plus, you’ve let a complete stranger piss you off and youre officially his bitch. How’s that make you feel?

By Brian on Nov 3, 2010

Wow, Brian, you’ve posted more today then you have all last week!

Is Bob and cyberKICK getting to you? While I don’t see cyberKICK, Bob, or anyone else but you get all worked up, I think you need to do some self-evaluation.

Please though, keep posting against cyberKICK. The funny thing is that his/her arguments have been level and consistant. All of the claims posted have been cited and documented by various sources. I know you have been asked for your sources over and over, and you just try to cover it up by talking BS> Why not simply try to actually cite some facts (which of course you belive are the same as opinions) and document the sources. Or do you simply have nothing?

It is my “fact” that you need to get back on your meds.

By SealBurgers on Nov 3, 2010

Sealburger, do you still stand by the following statement:

“All La Jolla storeowners who say that they want the seals to stay on that beach have been bullied by the media to say so”

See, when someone believes something as completely fucking retarded as that, why on Earth would I bother trying to have an intellectual debate with you? Please respond back and elaborate on this plot by the media to manipulate what store owners have said. Please, almighty one. Enlighten me.

Be sure to “cite facts” that prove that statement. Refer me to the conspiracy website that informed you of this plot, please.

Or maybe you can just admit that when you claimed that, you were full of shit and you simply exagerrated. But seeing as how this is your religion, I doubt you can walk back a point as obviously fucking bullshit as that one.

By Brian on Nov 3, 2010

La Jolla Community Planning Council has repeatedly voted to remove the rope, to not have the rope. During the meetings which I have attended the members, citizens and business owners have made it clear they want the seals gone or managed. They have made it clear they want it cleaned and the smell reduced. You were not at the meetings, or you would know this.I have friends who have moved their business out of the area because the high-end clientele just simply isn’t there anymore. One moved to Westwood, and another to Malibu. You are the one who stated

“All La Jolla storeowners who say that they want the seals to stay on that beach have been bullied by the media to say so”

I never said that. What I said (again) was

“Brian, again you are wrong. The local businesses don’t want the seals there… but have been bullied in to not stating it on TV. However, they are represented by the La Jolla Community Planning Association, who has voted to stop the rope year after year. It is those who are in other areas who want this seal toilet here. As long as it isn’t in you back yard right?”

and actually I just copied it from cyberKICK. I never said “ALL” you did. I was talking about the business overall as referred to by LJCPC and from what I know having friends who actually had businesses there 15 years ago when it was a very high end area. Back then, it was Rolls Royce, limos, Ferrari’s Lamborghinis, and all sorts for very high end cars. All over the place. Parking was $10 just to use the beach. The street parking was so unavailable it was useless. It would take over an hour to just park your car in La Jolla. Now parking is easy, Street parking is much easier. No more $10 parking and shuttles. Where did all the people go?
So yes. Today things aren’t as high end as they once were. The business owners I KNOW and have talked about it over dinner have informed me of how they felt when interviewed by the media. If they say “we want the seals gone” they would look bad, so they just say “oh yea we love them” to try to save some face. They felt as though it was a loaded question.

And just so you know Brian, I don’t think the way you do. I think opinions are of own person feelings on something while facts are verifiable and the same for everybody. So, I’ll try to teach you the difference (since everybody here knows you think opinions are facts)…. It is an opinion that you are a loon, but it is a fact that you are way too worked up about this website…

By SealBurgers on Nov 3, 2010

Hey Bob, do you think finally Brian figured out how to use RSS? He is posting alot more now… Of course it is just mis-quotes and confusion. I tried to show him/her the difference between facts and opinions, but we’ll have to wait and see if it sinks in… one can only do so much.

By SealBurgers on Nov 3, 2010

SealBurgers, I doubt you will be able to educate Brian, he takes too much pride in his ignorance.

Anybody who thinks opinions are facts is pretty thick.

We need to be careful though… we don’t want to hurt his feelings. He might get fed up and stop posting. Like how he tried to punish us by not posting for about a week…

There, that should be enough for a good rant.

By cyberKICK on Nov 4, 2010

THATS your response. REALLY!??!!? Let me sum up what you just said: “Brian, its not that they were bullied into lying on TV. They were bullied into not saying the truth on TV.”

LOL!!!

You dont WANT to believe that storeowners there actually support the beach being reserved for seals. Its like trying to convince a creationist that evolution is true. Even though it IS true, it shatters their whole believe system. So they pull whatever bullshit argument out of their ass to disprove it.

“The fact that no storeowners are bitching about the seals on TV….hmmm, the fact that many of them express openly that they WANT the seals…hmmm…I KNOW WHAT IT IS…its a conspiracy by the media to bully people into not saying what they truly think on TV”

Yeah, sealburger, because this is such a HUGE issue, theres a media conspiracy to suppress the truthful opinions of store-owners in the area by bullying them. Wow. I envy your ability to believe such incredible bullshit. And I envy the ability of the other nutjobs who post on here to jump on board and say that they believe it to. Its like sitting in on a Bible study and watching the believers just say things like “You know what, I believe THIS now” and all the others say “THat sounds right, I believe it TOO!”

Seriously, you guys needs to start meeting in church because this has become your religion.

By Brian on Nov 4, 2010

cyberkick and sealburger…simple question, what are your opinions on the makers of this website?

By Brian on Nov 4, 2010

last few days our group held a similar discussion about this topic and you show something we have not covered yet, appreciate that.

- Lora

By Car Hire Alicante Airport on Nov 4, 2010

my goodness i have missed alot on this…my mom had a bad fall visiting my son and his new wife..at least she did it before her dr. appt..brian..you need to be more respectful of people and not use the dirty words..cyberkick..don’t let that jerk get to you..you are better than that….seal gulls god i miss them..don’t have them in kansas..the beach bombers…they poo all over everything…you people do not what you have out there..I miss my ocean..them dam seal..and the gulls…I want to feel sand from the beach under my feet and see the ocean one more time in my life before i kick the big one…you see the big picture here is you have what i don’t have….brian i will be out there in december..come clean the beach with me…walk the walk or talk the talk…if you don’t like the beach come clean it with me…brian i will come pick you up..to clean the beach with me…no one will kick your behind i promise you that,,,if you don’t like what you see than help with the problem..this is our problem..there is a happy middle ground here…am going to bed..you people need to hold on to what you have….at least i am coming from kansas to clean seal poo…kimmie

By kimmie on Nov 5, 2010

brian..man up i will see you next month..helping me clean up seal poo..like my dad always said get on the pot and poo or get off …so what are you going to do…my gusse is you are going to sit on the pot..man up

By kimmie on Nov 5, 2010

I love how cyberkick and Sealburger are now avoiding the question I asked…

By Brian on Nov 5, 2010

To answer your question Brian, not opinions are not facts…

By SealBurgers on Nov 5, 2010

Brian is in love with cyberkick and Sealburger

By Bob on Nov 5, 2010

Wow, I just learned something new. Opinions are facts, and my license is wrong too. Im no longer named Brian. Wow. Thanks again guys for obsessing so much over my posts. Pissing off whiny fags on this website will never get old.

By Bob on Nov 5, 2010

Thats right, sealburger. Avoid the question. Instead, pretend like you dont get the sarcasm from my “opinions are facts” post.

Youre afraid that if you said how you really feel about the creators of this website, then you and your husband cyberpedophile would have to find a new place on the web to cry together and give virtual hugs. Awwwww….I so hope you guys know each other offline. If not, I smell a romance brewing… Its so cute to see a young couple in love : )

By Brian on Nov 5, 2010

hey kimmie, why do you defend these idiots? It makes you look like a clown. I’d be happy to help you clean up the beach. It would be really nice for you to gime my family a ride to the beach. I look forward to seeing you in december…

cyberdickinyourmouth, you’re just a fucking asshole, and you don’t know anyhting. You should fucking leave this website. ASSHOLE!!

By Brian on Nov 5, 2010

From what I have read about Visual Rhythm is that they have some decent templates, and are pretty good with their custom work. They really aren’t too expensive if you are looking to build your own website. I personally like to use sweetpc.biz. They do really good work too, and I have used them in the past.

What kind of web development are you looking for?

By cyberKICK on Nov 5, 2010

Hey Maybe we can meet offline one day and you can fuck me in the ass, seeing as how I’m obviously already your bitch. Yeeehawww!!!

By Brian on Nov 5, 2010

Wow, someone asks me about web designers and then twists it around into some sort of personal attack… weird.

By cyberKICK on Nov 5, 2010

okay everyone..brian…is going to help me clean the beach..i will give him and his family a ride..as for your question brian..am not proctecting these people…they have a right to say what they want…just like us…but what really makes me mad is the dirty words you use to people..like f&&& in the A@@….they is why i live in small town ks…pop 800…yes small town…the thing i learn this week is everyone forgot where they came from..post what you want..but don’t be ugly with the dirty words..i respect everyone’s say so here..we are all in this together…there is a happy middle ground i hope..am glad i don’t live in the big city…but my home will always be calif….so we need to all play nice here..with out the dirty words…can you do that brian…

By kimmie on Nov 6, 2010

cyberkick and seal burger have a great weekend..we don’t see eye to eye..but the dirty words need to go….i will be out in the land of of now man land loading wood..for two days..to heat my home…cyberkick…brian said he will clean the beach with us..you think he will show up…i don’t …he is a dummy..talk the talk..but not make the walk..see you all soon,,

By kimmie on Nov 6, 2010

Whoo Hoo…. 300 posts!

I do believe this is the longest thead yet for this site.

By cyberKICK on Nov 6, 2010

301 post…well brian are you going to take me up on my offer to help me clean the beach up..you really need to drop the dirty words on this website…we are all in this..i will see you all in dece…cyberkick..he is just trying to make you mad…don’t play into his came…kimmie

By kimmie on Nov 6, 2010

301 post…well brian are you going to take me up on my offer to help me clean the beach up..you really need to drop the dirty words on this website…we are all in this..i will see you all in dece…cyberkick..he is just trying to make you mad…don’t play into his came…kimmie

By kimmie on Nov 6, 2010

I love how cyberkick is scared to answer my question and is instead just creating posts and pretending to be me.

So let me try this again, pussy…

1. What is your opinion of the creators of this website?
2. Is Mission Bay safe for kids to swim?

Cyberkick, I know youre too scared to answer these simple questions. Instead, resort to pretending to be me some more

By Brian on Nov 7, 2010

Here… read what the lifeguards say about it:

http://www.sandiego.gov/lifeguards/beaches/mbay.shtml

Also, what does that have to do with the ocean?

I gave my limited opinion of the web developers… Why are you asking again?

By cyberKICK on Nov 7, 2010

So Brian, you not only thinks opinions are facts, but bays are oceans?

By cyberKICK on Nov 8, 2010

HAHAHAHA!!!! AWWWW, whats wrong sweety?? Are you scared?!?!?? You sure are, arent you!!! HAHAHHA!!!!!! That is TOO fucking awesome.

Its totally important, because you think that the people who run this website are a crazy “gang” who “assaults children”. But you dont want to say that because depend on their website for your group therapy sessions with sealburger. Awwww

Its amazing that a complete moron would CHOOSE to hang out on a website that he HATES. I cant stand Lady Gaga, which would make it completely retarded for me to go to her website and whine and bitch nonstop about how much she sucks. Which is why I DONT GO THERE. What a fucking crybaby you are…

And you had stated before that no beach in all of San Diego was safe for kids, except this one (which it isnt because of sharp rocks, but for sake of argument..) So I mentioned another beach in San Diego…Mission Bay. So now youre back-peddling…you meant OCEAN beach…not just beach….oh ok, well in that case, how about Carlsbad State Beach, or Coronado Beach. Please tell me that those arent “safe for kids”. Then tell me why you arent spending all of your time trying to keep kids from those beaches, seeing as how theyre so unsafe…

Even though you make yourself look even more and more retarded every time you post on here, please dear God dont stop. This is laugh-out-loud material, each and every time. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, bitch.

By Brian on Nov 8, 2010

Actually, Brian, he did answer your questions. And I’ll back what he is saying. The lifeguards have publically stated that it is the safest beach all along the coast for small children. It was built because the other beaches have such strong currents. You keep talking about sharp rocks, but have you been there? Where are they? I think you might be talking about the COVE. Why then do the lifeguards publically state that it is the safest beach?

Even the lifeguards say that mission beach is not good for small children. They only have seasonal lifeguards and there is a huge drop off where a child can be standing in 2 feet of water, take 1 step and have the water over their heads. Did you even follow the link cyberKICK supplied. I bet not. Look how worked up you got when he posted a link.

BTW, cyberKICK, I think he is asking about the owners of the site, not the makers. I’m not entirely sure though as he did say “makers”. Normally that would refer to the developers, but who know with this guy.

Personally, it is nice that they allow open conversations. It allows for both sides to voice their opinions. Of course to someone who thinks opinions are facts, this might not make any sense. Have you treid decaf?

By SealBurgers on Nov 8, 2010

Hey Brian, why you are complaining about how cyberKICK didn’t answer your questions, did it ever occur to you that maybe you would get more of a response from cyberKICK if you occationally answer some yourself?

Probably not…

By SealBurgers on Nov 8, 2010

If Lady Gaga was shitting in your back yard you would probably go on her web site and tell people about it.

By Bob on Nov 8, 2010

So Sealburger, Ill ask you instead so as to see if youre man enough to answer. What is your opinion of the people who own this website? Namely, the “San Diego Seal Watch” people? hmmm?

And Bob, thats a good point. I should go to the website dedicated to every animal species that shits within the county of San Diego. Please provide me a list of the 1000 or so animal species that live in the county and their respective websites so that I can start going through them 1 by 1. Oh wait, you dont mean that you only choose this one animal to bitch about? As opposed to the seagulls, sharks, coyotes, foxes, skunks, etc….

By Brian on Nov 8, 2010

Well, sealwatch has a tendancy to not tell the truth. They are self appointed “experts” who actaully don’t know much about marine biology. They often disagree with experts, and play some childish games. They do however have a blog and allow people to post what they want (usually). Sometimes they delete posts, but haven’t in a long time. They are improving in that department.

Still, now that I’ve answered all your questions, I’d like to hear answer to the ones you have been asked and you ignored.

By SealBurgers on Nov 8, 2010

There is a very good reason that I only choose this animal. It’s the only one that stinks up the Public Park called The Children’s Pool. And not just once in a while, but every single day. I see tourists running out of there holding there noses after they get their pictures. Your idea that the birds are causing the smell is pretty lame.

And it is why it is the Law to pick up after your dog.

And it is why the Zoo cleans up after their animals.

All the City needs to do is open up the Seawall the way it was designed to be opened and let nature clean the beach.

If I go to a park, I don’t smell squirrel droppings. If I go into a canyon I don’t smell coyote droppings or even rabbit droppings.

So, Brain, name one man made public place that stinks every day because of a wild animal not in captivity.

By Bob on Nov 8, 2010

Well duh everyone knows it’s The Children’s Pool. That’s the way we like it. Stinky.

By Brain on Nov 8, 2010

Simple Brian, you don’t answer my questions, so yours hold very little value. It doesn’t matter what I say to you, you will simply twist it around and throw in some profanities. Whatever. You haven’t said anything useful or different in a while and it is boring. Kimmie can hold an interesting conversation, as well as SealBurgers, Bob and People Come First and Balanced. You are just full of hate and anger, and I would recommend some therapy.

By cyberKICK on Nov 8, 2010

Bob, what people don’t seem to realize is that this beach isn’t being used by the seals as a home, but rather as a parking space. It isn’t the same seals every day. Each day, seals cruise along the coast and come ashore on land on rocks. While years ago nobody noticed them becuase there were so many. Today they are everywhere, and they are competing for places to go, not from people but from other seals and sea lions. They perfer rocks, which is why the rocks get covered first.

The marine biologists and experts have testified to this. Studies have been done, and they have even stopped counting seals because the sheer numbers are so high. The last official count was in 2005, and it was done by counting pups on certain beaches and they saying, well, 2 adults per pup, some many pups, so many beaches we didn’t check… etc.

It’s sort of like saying that you know how many cockroaches are in your house because you found 5. Say, 100 in the wall for every 1 you find, so you must have 505 cockroaches. The thing is, would you say that is an accurate count? Probably not.

Latest guess is 500,000 on this coast and the east coast. Not including the other side of the atlantic and pacific. Also not counting the ones living in the open ocean and along the islands. They clearly don’t need protection. Just like the cockroaches don’t need protection.

Besides that, protection from what? Photos? Kids playing? Right…

As for the 1000+ seals right here, the marine biologists have already said that even is all were destroyed, it would have 0 (zero) impact on the seal population as a whole. These seals don’t even matter.

By cyberKICK on Nov 8, 2010

Brian, since you are so worked up, and you believe facts are opinions, what would you like to talk about? What topic should be discussed on this blog if not nuisance seals on a public beach? Should this blog be about the weather or something? No, I (and presumably everybody else besides you) is here to discuss the topic of The Children’s Pool public park. Do you know a better place to discuss how ridiculous than the blog setup specifically for this purpose by those causing the trouble in the first place? Seems to be to be the best place? The only one here full of hate and anger is you. You want proof? Read your own posts.

By SealBurgers on Nov 8, 2010

I just learned that I’m supporting an anti-human vegan conspiracy. I was told this to my face AS I WAS EATING IN-AND-OUT BURGER. Teddy Roosevelt is the most anti-human person of all time. WHAT A MONSTER HE WAS!!! And George W. Bush. WHAT A LIBERAL HE IS!!!!

Seriously, my parents taught me an important lesson: “Wow, Im really an angry crybaby…”

By Brian on Nov 8, 2010

LOL!!! You are actually SCARED to tell your opinion on a website. SCARED!!! What do think is going to happen. “Oh no, they might get mad and not let me post on here any more.” LOLOL!!!!

Just when I thought you couldnt get any more fucking pathetic, you prove me wrong. Thank you cyberkick.

So cyberkick, my follow up question: Do you think that the “San Diego Seal Watch” people are a “gang” that advocates “attacking children”? Have they ever attacked children themselves??

Now avoid the questions like the pussy that you are. HAHAHA!!!!

By Brian on Nov 9, 2010

What are you talking about? We can’t get cyberKICK to stop posting his opinions.

By Jeff on Nov 9, 2010

Well, actually Brian, the way I see it is we can’t get cyberKICK to stop sharing opinions (and facts). Oh wait, I forgot, Brian says opinions are facts, and oceans are bays.

Still, how can you even say cyberKICK doesn’t share opinions? Can’t you read?

By SealBurgers on Nov 9, 2010

Jeff, is that your opinion or fact?

By SealBurgers on Nov 9, 2010

Kinda funny. As I was writing my post, yours went up… jinx.

By SealBurgers on Nov 9, 2010

It is a fact that the beach has no odor, is totally unsafe because the engineers that built it for the children had a secret agenda to put the kids in as much danger as possible. In fact, that is why they chose the location they did to build the beach and wall.

By Brian on Nov 9, 2010

So Sealburger, I know youre too much of a pussy to answer these questions also, but Ill ask them directly to you (for no other reason than to prove that youre too much of a pussy to answer them)

1. Do you think that the San Diego Seal Watch group are a gang that either attacks kids themselves or advocates attacking kids?

2. Are there any other beaches in all of San Diego where kids can safely swim. And since beaches at bays are officially not beaches to you anymore, do you consider Carlsbad State Beach and/or Coronado Beach to be unsafe for kids? Or are you finally willing to admit that saying that this one beach is the ONLY beach in the entire county safe enough for kids is an EXAGGERATION?

3. Will you avoid answering both of the above questions and make some “opinions are facts” reference instead, proving that you dont understand when someone is making fun of you? lol!!

What a dumbfuck

By Brian on Nov 9, 2010

Brian, you have serious listening problems. I am not your father, but you keep asking the same questions as if I were. Your quesitons have been answered over and over. Go back and read.

Now you are bringing up beaches that are far away. So instead of using beaches right here you want me to load up the kids and drive 45 minutes to another beach. Get real… Also, if you would bother to read, it has been said over and over that the safest beach is right here. Why then should the best one be left to rot, and we all grive 1.5 hours to access other beaches?

Again, the safest one is right here. No driving necessary. It was built for a reason. If were were talking about some natural habitat, then maybe. We are not. We are talking about a custom development specifically designed to be safe. Designed by master hydrolocists and engineers. A huge progect gifted to children not seals.

Now I know law means nothing to you, but perhaps honesty does.

Also, get it straight tha I am not your father. I am under no obligation you answer you insistant repeated questions. You want questions answered yous should answer some yourself. Cite some reliable sources and give meaningful answers. A bunch of profanities and insults really isn’t the way to get what you want, but a shining example how these activists act. You have caused more damage to this site than I ever could. You truly are the pro-beach access groups greatest asset on this site. Thank you.

By SealBurgers on Nov 9, 2010

Opps, I forgot. No Brian, opinions are not facts.

By SealBurgers on Nov 9, 2010

So Brian, are you finally willing to admit that saying that this one beach is the ONLY beach in the entire county to look at seals is an EXAGGERATION?

By Bob on Nov 9, 2010

I think it is funny when the tourists run away holding their noses.

By Jeff on Nov 9, 2010

Sorry, sealburger, I didnt break this down for you well enough. Your butt-buddy, cyberkick, claims that this is the ONLY beach in all of san diego where kids can safely play. I was simply making the point that that is bullshit.

Secondly, its not even the safest. Have you ever been there? Its full of shit and sharp rocks. Theres even creepy old men such as yourself constantly bothering people as they go down the steps.

Thats…um…”safe” to you? OH I GET IT!!!!

So let me ask one last question then. How long have you been molesting kids? Is it something you’ve sought treatment for? Is that why you spend all of your spare time trying to get kids from all over the county to travel to this one spot? Are you a member of NAMBLA?? What a sick fuck…

By Brian on Nov 9, 2010

This one beach isn’t the only place to see seals, but the seals are damaging public property and making all the homes in the area smell bad too. It is a real problem for locals. Locals have been fighting this from the go.

By cyberKICK on Nov 9, 2010

*sigh* Brian, you keep saying how that beach is dangerous and that the authorities (lifeguards, etc) are lying about how it is the safest beach. Where is your documentation. Don’t have any? So you admin you are just full of BS. Just totally ignorant.

By cyberKICK on Nov 9, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ege_nHPQhqs

Hey Brian, the Activists got you on video.

By Bob on Nov 9, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DBuk91phkI&feature=related

No, this is me.

By Brian on Nov 9, 2010

My documentation??? WTF? Yeah, I need a works cited page for my posts on this website *rolls eyes**

If you think that kids should swim at a small beach filled with sharp rocks and seal shit RATHER than a normal beach, then thats your thing. But then again, Im using actual reasons and observations and attempting to convey them to you. My bad. I forgot that youre just a complete dumb fuck who goes online to complain to the world about some animals on a beach. hahahhaha awww poor thing

By the way, Im taking the in-laws to this beach tomorrow while theyre in town. I hope its safe seeing as how a “gang” hangs out there and “attacks” people. Plus, theyve heard such good things about San Diego, and theyre gonna see that La Jolla is a “Dump”. I hope we survive!!! hahahahaha

I love knowing that where ever you are, youre not only pissed off at me (a complete stranger online) but youre angry at a bunch of animals. How fucking pathetic is that??? hahahaha

By Brian on Nov 9, 2010

am getting off of here..i am going to need surgey done in dec…brian..don’t be so rude…cyberkick and sealburger..i don’t see eye to eye with you all..one thing i agree on is brian is a butt..he never did answer my question about picking him up to clean seal poo..he is a wussy as my late deceased brother would call him..take care everyone ..kimmie

By kimmie on Nov 10, 2010

Kimmie, that isn’t a bad idea. This is going nowhere, and no constructive dialouge is going on… Brian has refused to research anything regarding his opinions (facts) and has zero (0) documentation. That is because his opinions aren’t supported by experts and facts. I have given documentation to my opinions.

By cyberKICK on Nov 10, 2010

brian..whatch your say about creepy old men…my husband is 20 years my sr…he will be 70 next month..shame on you for you said..my husband goes out and cuts up wood to help heat our home….he is in great shape..his mom lived to be over 100 years old without one surgery in her life…you will be old one day…so you need to shut up when it comes to our older people…they are more smart than what you are…will not put up with ugly words when it comes to our older people..you see i work in a nursing home ..and you are a rude ass…yes i said a nasty word..cyberkick..and sealburger…notice brain did not answer me on picking him up to clean up seal poo..surgery or not i wil be out there next month….brian..you leave the older people out of this…this is one deal you will really piss me off..did you take you meds today…don’t fuck with the older people…you are a asshole..you really pissed me of on this one….are you taking care of you mom and dad…I take care of my mom…I lost my dad..but i took care of him to the end of his life…i hope when your times comes.you will be alone….you will have that coming to you…you are a nasty MF..sorry but this really pissed me off about our older people..brian you feed off of this…you need to go see a dr…am not playing your game…you are rude and nasty….kimmie…..brian go suck a egg

By kimmie on Nov 11, 2010

god bless the men and ladies for v-day..thank you for serving the usa…but brian would not know that..he is just a ass in the asshole pile…he really pissed me off..am not putting up with his poo (shit ) anymore…when it comes to our older people.shame on me for the dirty words…brian..you suck big time..you will be old one day…kimmie

By kimmie on Nov 11, 2010

Please warn your friends not to come to La Jolla until these ECO-Terrorists are removed from our lives. It is not safe for children and other living things as long as people like Dorota Valli and her sick crew and dealt with. Long live the living things at Children’s Pool. Down with the APRL (Animal Poop Relishing League.)

By Bad people APRL on Nov 11, 2010

Kimmie, I don’t know what is going on for me while you are in town. If I can I will be happy to help clean the beach again. I’ve done it many times before, and I’ll do it again.

By cyberKICK on Nov 11, 2010

Nothing on these posts is fair or balanced. Every dissenting voice is censored. Why bother with these worthless people and their stupid cause.

By Ellis Wills on Nov 12, 2010

Yep, another great evening at the beach. Today we had a small fire and enjoyed the beach. Activists did their regular harassment of public beach users, but the police fixed that… they ran away when the police came.

By cyberKICK on Nov 14, 2010

Havent been to this page in a week, and what do I see when I come back. One guy is posting “videos” of me and someone else is ranting about something I must have said about old people. Priceless. Simply priceless.

You make fun of some overly sensitive people who live on a website (that THEY HATE!) and you get to see them whine and moan about it for a week.

so cyberkick, did you meet any children that youre interested in while at the beach? I know how insistent you are about children being there. And you made it a point to be there yourself. Even made a cozy fire, I hear. Did you get anywhere with any of them?…. What a fucking creep. hahahha

I think its best that people keep their children away from this beach. Not because of the seals. Not because the city is “a dump”. Not because activists “will attack them”. But because there is a middle-aged man who is a little overly eager to see kids at this 200 foot wide area.

When he’s not updating his NAMBLA profile online, cyberkick is trying to lure children to the seal beach so that he can have “another great evening”….hahahha, you sick bastard!

By Brian on Nov 15, 2010

I visited la jolla from MI this week and was so excited to see the seals at the childrens pool. I was horrified to see people harassing them. I pray that your efforts save the seals and I wrote the Mayor. I don’t think I will go back to la jolla unless something is done. It really upset me and soured CA for me. Thanks for all you do

By Rachel H on Nov 15, 2010

I’d be inclined to agree with you one this subject. Which is not something I typically do! I enjoy reading a post that will make people think. Also, thanks for allowing me to comment!

By Brady Hapke on Dec 13, 2010

found your site on del.icio.us today and really liked it.. i bookmarked it and will be back to check it out some more later

By laboratory technician on Dec 14, 2010

Why is it called tourist season if we can’t shoot at them?

By Bitch on Dec 15, 2010